re: Kansas Ban On Child Transgender Medicalization Fails To Beat Veto After Two GOP Flip

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The other Republican who voted against the bill, Borjon, said he “strongly supports” prohibiting gender reassignment surgery and “limiting” the use of hormone blockers, but that some parts of the bill “go too far in restricting mental and behavioral health care for children.”

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The only restriction on mental and behavioral health care for children is that it bans state employees and state facilities from promoting "social transitioning" which is defined in the bill as "acts other than medical or surgical interventions that are undertaken for the purpose of presenting as a member of the opposite sex, including the changing of an individual's preferred pronouns or manner of dress."

From the bill: Section 2 (d) "Except to the extent required by the first amendment to the United States constitution, a state property, facility or building shall not be used to promote or advocate the use of social transitioning, medication or surgery as a treatment for a child whose perceived gender or perceived sex is inconsistent with such child's sex." and Section 2 (f) "A state employee whose official duties include the care of children shall not, while engaged in those official duties, provide or promote the use of social transitioning, medication, or surgery as a treatment for a child whose perceived gender or perceived sex is inconsistent with such child's sex."

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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

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If the parents and doctors agreed to lobotomize the child, would you agree with that and say it was just their business? I thought the doctor’s oath was “Do No Harm.”

We’ve gone so fricking crazy that I now have to explain to people that mutilating and castrating children is evil.

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These decisions belong between the team of professionals and the parents. The youth need our help, not government overreach.

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Now do cigarettes, alcohol, or compelled school.

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Weak?

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No. They are Democratic plants. They show their true colors when tough legislation comes up.

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medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?

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It's not medicine so your entire insane rant is invalid.

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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

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The doctors making bank off of the surgery?

I roasted the ever living frick out of Hank when he posted something similar to your stupidity.

The data is EXTREMELY CLEAR, this coursecof action is harmful in the long term. By supporting these heinous acts…Im definitively of the opinion that you, Hank, and the medical butchers involved, are all in support of child abuse.

You do you though.

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Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?

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Do you like the idea that a 13 year old girl should be able to have sex with a 45 year old man, if the parents consent to it???

If you have a problem with that (and you are a sick frick if you don’t have a problem with it) then you most certainly should have a problem with a 13 year old boy having his dick cut off, because his parents consented to it.

Doctors and parents should decide if little kids need transgender medical services?

I reject that belief. I'm not against parents teaching their children whatever they want, and instilling their own ideals into their children... but when it moves to actions, where some children are basically being sterilized without being old enough to contemplate and decide it for themselves, I'm against it.

Got to be 21 to buy cigs and beer. 18 to buy lottery tickets. 18 to vote. But when it comes to mutilation at the behest of parents.. there's no age limit?


It wouldn't be bad if all sides of the transgender argument were equally presented. But, the youth who transitioned and were negatively impacted...are often censored from speaking out about it. The vast majority of transgender stories and articles are positive, and portray going through the medical procedures as great. That one sided dialogue has led to many not understanding what they were getting into. Then when they are suffering post-transition, they are silenced...while the cookie cutter portrayals of transitioning being akin to rainbows and butterflies continue to flood across society, coaxing more and more people.

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Weak?

From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?

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Jesus Christ. This board has really allowed some fricked up shite to spread around lately. Tarzana thinks 11 year old girls should be able to consent to sex and you think parents and doctors should take it upon themselves to just Josef Mengele their child in anyway they feel like. frick you and anybody who agrees with you

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Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?

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Because the idea that conservatives want government out of everything is a low IQ conservative idea. And it's not true. It's just a reaction to the ongoing overregulation proposed by Liberals.

So let's put that to bed and talk about letting doctors mutilate children with the agreement of parents - because that's what this is. How do you feel about that idea instead? Let's have that discussion instead of fake ones.