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Why was it necessary for the Left to cross the Rubicon from live and let live?

Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:28 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101733 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:28 am
To basically, we must thumb our noses at every facet of normalcy in Western Civilization?
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
11735 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:30 am to
MENTAL ILLNESS
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80201 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:31 am to
Because they’re miserable people, never happy with anything. And misery loves company.

At the root of it all, this is the answer. And it was inevitable.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5297 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:32 am to
Satan
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17973 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:33 am to
The only way to live a life free of personal responsibility is to blame all of your shortcomings on the people who you perceive to have it better than you. And never break the character no matter what.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9247 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:35 am to
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Because they’re miserable people, never happy with anything. And misery loves company. At the root of it all, this is the answer. And it was inevitable.


I know a fair amount of liberals and this is definitely true. They are all miserable, with past traumas they just can’t get past. I’m convinced that deep down they don’t want to get past it. Their trauma is the basis of who they are. If they weren’t miserable they wouldn’t know what to be.

And misery loves company
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3085 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:36 am to
Because that was always the plan, and, in a lot of ways they're winning. Total control over media, movies/TV, and education. Increasing control of corporations. Major inroads in the military and criminal justice system.

The right's dumb mistake was thinking they were in a boxing match when they're actually in a cage fight to the death. And the left has millions of more fighters coming in over the border, too.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:40 am to
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Why was it necessary for the Left to cross the Rubicon from live and let live?


Because live and let lives implies letting others be out there who may think differently and speak out openly against your dogma.

Leftism has never held up in the arena of ideals or free honest debate because it’s a philosophy built on envy, spite, retribution, and ultimately control.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:43 am to
The liberal/progressive narrative has so deeply adopted the Critical Theory that it must, by default, deconstruct anything it deems as being created by a white, male-dominated society. Those things have to be branded as an "ism" or "ist" in order to attempt to dissuade others from continuing to use it.

Blacks have failing grades in Math? Math is racist.
Women aren't as physically strong as men? Acknowledging that is sexist or misogynistic.
Pedo males want to claim being trannies in order to gain better access to young girls? Mentioning that is trans-phobist.

Critical Theory used in this manner requires the investment of moral outrage (read also: highly emotional behavior) to fuel its continuance, this eventually expresses itself as identity politics. Moral outrage lasts only so long on a single subject, so there has to be a constant movement to some new outrage in order to not lose that emotional momentum.

Inevitably, as the goal they believe they are pursuing continues to fall well out of reach, they have to delve into the mindset of "we have to do whatever we can to force people to stop thinking and behaving differently than what we want (even if it's the same thing we would condemn them for trying to do to us)".

It's an incredible hypocrisy dressed in the wrappings of faux enlightenment.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6150 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:45 am to
This is an excellent question.

I've maintained that there has been very little that is "liberal" in the Dem-Progressive party for years.

The evolution has been slow, from the dominance of the "Christian Conservative" in the early '90s, to the "Compassionate Conservative" of W Bush, the emergence of the "Neocon", and now Trump's GOP, so too has the Dem party evolved. It looks nothing like the party of Labor that fought for American jobs and against illegal immigration from the '70s through the '90s.

There is nothing "liberal" about compelled or banned speech, active discrimination to achieve DEI metrics, or sliding scale tax structures that penalize success.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7182 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:48 am to
The best guess I have is the decline of “left libertarianism”—basically your live and let live group—being replaced by a relatively small but devoted and powerful progressive core. Progressives have always sought to control others through the exercise of government power because they know better. To which I like to think, who do the hell they think they are?”
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:53 am to
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Why was it necessary for the Left to cross the Rubicon from live and let live?


They were successful because we are too tolerant and weak.

Our Fathers and Grandfathers would have put an end to this madness with a quickness.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9379 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:24 pm to
They are after total control of conservative cash/assets, vote/power in gov't. They cannot get total control until conservative America has been defeated. Once defeated they can then destroy the Constitution and burn the American flag to start over building a Marxist country in their image.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14533 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Why was it necessary for the Left to cross the Rubicon from live and let live?

To basically, we must thumb our noses at every facet of normalcy in Western Civilization?



There aren't many good questions proffered on the poli-board but this is one of them.

I endorse the theory that this is a result of the former Soviet Union's incremental long game of infiltration into American Academia. This slowed somewhat when the Soviet Union collapsed but then China saw the impending reward and took over where they left off.

All of this radical left shite was birthed by American Academia. This is how our greatest foreign enemies divided us.

You get an upvote.



This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11164 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:45 pm to
We must all be open minded and accepting that people have different views and opinions. (Unless I disagree with them reeeeeeee!)

Had an argument a few weeks ago with some POS leftist on this a few weeks ago and he was too blind to see he was the close minded, unaccepting person. Unreal.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 12:46 pm
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
2000 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:59 pm to
What your seeing from the Democrats today is not organic.

This is the "globalist progressive" plan starting to expose itself. They have to literally tear down old societal accepted standard in order to "rebuild" the society they want to enforce.

To see and understand their heinous plans you have to ask yourself some questions and then provide logical answers to your questions. Such as, 1. Why are Democrat cities literally destroying themselves? Why are they letting crime rule their communities, why are they unconcerned about businesses closing, leaving? Why are the not concerned about the affects of abandoned business building and the problems that blight causes in neighborhoods?

What is the basic purpose of government, whether it's local, state, or federal?

The answer to these questions expose the sinister end game of the "progressive" Democrat "leadership". One everything is torn down, they can be rebuilt to their will. Once they drive established businesses out of business, they can reopen business they approve. Once the buildings are vacant, they can repopulate them the buildings with people they approve and they control.

Reality is that cities cannot continue to have their building shuttered and businesses shut down for long. There will be a time these.progressive run cities will declare a crisis that will give them authority to appoint new ownership below value and then apportion tax dollars for the new owners to follow their new progressive government rules.

There is no other end game for the progressive action taking place today across the country. You can run as many scenarios as you can think of, and they all come back to rebuilding communities and society by those who will agree to the vision of the "progressive" ideology.

In there world their is only once view and anyone who disagrees is a societal problem. Debate is not welcome. Freedom must be approved.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2465 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:59 pm to
I have never seen a liberal that was happy
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4510 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 1:59 pm to
Agenda 21
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80201 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

I have never seen a liberal that was happy


And that’s why they are the way they are.

They’d rather try to bend the world to conform to their will rather than make the changes in themselves necessary to be happy.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29291 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:32 pm to
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Our Fathers and Grandfathers would have put an end to this madness with a quickness.


They're the ones that planted the seeds to allow this in the first place.
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