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Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:44 am
The greatest military commander in American history and 18th President of the United States:



ULYSSES S. GRANT

Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1142 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:47 am to
Proud to be the first downvote
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7974 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:47 am to
If Stonewall Jackson hadn’t been killed that bastard would have been in Andersonville
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1360 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:48 am to
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The greatest military commander in American history
Thats a stretch…
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7396 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:49 am to
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The greatest drunkard military commander in American history and 18th President of the United States:

Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38605 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:50 am to
Thank you U.S. Grant, a true American Hero
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
222 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:52 am to
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The greatest military commander in American history and 18th President of the United States


Is this some kind of a troll or joke? Grant isn’t even in the top 100 US military commanders (counting confederate commanders in this).

The union army was twice the size as the confederate army and had the benefit of superior logistics.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71394 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:52 am to
The 34th President was a better military commander.

Posted by cwil1
KY/TN border
Member since Oct 2023
87 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:53 am to
Got his arse kicked by a Kentuckian day one at Shiloh.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
1536 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:00 am to
Did you honestly think you'd get a lot of upvotes?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124571 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:07 am to
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The greatest military commander in American history



Not even top 10
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10492 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:08 am to
quote:

ULYSSES S. GRANT


quote:

He is a butcher and is not fit to be at the head of an army. Yes, he generally manages to claim a victory, but such a victory! He loses two men to the enemy's one. He has no management, no regard for life."


Mary Todd Lincoln
Posted by GasMan
north Mississippi
Member since Sep 2003
1064 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:18 am to
His "greatness" as a commander was just all about having more. More men. More equipment. More guns. More food. More horses.

He knew he had enough to eventually overwhelm southern forces no matter what it cost the north. No matter how much you lose, just keep pressing forward until you drown them.

I mean, it works. The Red Army used the same strategy against Germany. But there's nothing "great" about it.

Most of us on here could have done the same.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9545 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:18 am to
Ooof...shows your lack of Civil War history to laud Grant.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10492 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:22 am to

Conversation between Lee and Jackson after the first day's engagement at Chancellorsville:

Hotchkiss returned to where Lee and Jackson had resumed their discussion and traced the route. There was a moment of silence. Then Lee said; “General Jackson, what do you propose to do?”

Jackson: “Go around here.” He pointed to the line Hotchkiss had shown.

Lee: “What do you propose to make this movement with?”

Jackson, without hesitation: “With my whole corps.” [31,000 men]

Lee: “What will you leave me?”

Jackson: “The divisions of Anderson and McLaws.” [14,000 men to face the 60,000 man Union army]

Lee: "Well you had better get on."
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10991 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:33 am to
It’s true that US Grant had a “Soviet style” of warfare, but to his credit he knew that was the fastest way to win.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5983 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:36 am to
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greatest military commander in American history



Um no. Not even close. He was very effective in utilizing some main advantages, but even with that there is question on if he knew and was doing it on purpose, or if it was just how he did things.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9553 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:54 am to
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RollTide1987


What a loser you are.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8895 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:48 pm to
150 years before me!

We also share a birthday with Sheena Easton.
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