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re: House scheme 2024
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:49 pm to PureBlood
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:49 pm to PureBlood
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Many forget that House was pretty damn impressive when he had a DL coach and some experienced CBs in 2022.
No DC can take the hits that LSU took on defense in 2023, and still field a palatable product. None. We saw our defense improve within weeks of adding Pete Jenkins.
In 2024, he returns most of the defense and they all have lots of reps in his system. We could go into 2024 damn near elite with the right additions to the staff and secondary.
Mrs. House! He was passable in his first year. Nothing steller just average at best. We still had schematic issues on 3rd and House plays but first year in system and he did make some half time adjustments. It was mid tier at best but first year gave him a pass. But this year, year 2 in his system and its been absolutely horrific. Scheme is main issue and refused to make any adjustments. You simply cannot be happy with a defense at LSU ranked in the 100s. Squandered a spot in college football playoff. It was simple. Have a defense ranked mid 50s and LSU is in it without question. In my eyes an LSU defense ranked in mid 50's should be a down year and 20s and 10s very good seasons.
He needed to be fired immediately after Texas A&M game. Kelly and LSU owe him nothing for the poor product he put out on the field. Would have gave fans and recruits a sense of hope LSU is serious about defense. What recruit wants to play for a house read and react D? 5 star talent go to waste? Harold Perkins perfect example of what opposing coaches are telling recruits about LSU.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:58 pm to Mudminnow
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Mrs. House! He was passable in his first year. Nothing steller just average at best. We still had schematic issues on 3rd and House plays but first year in system and he did make some half time adjustments. It was mid tier at best but first year gave him a pass. But this year, year 2 in his system and its been absolutely horrific. Scheme is main issue and refused to make any adjustments. You simply cannot be happy with a defense at LSU ranked in the 100s. Squandered a spot in college football playoff. It was simple. Have a defense ranked mid 50s and LSU is in it without question. In my eyes an LSU defense ranked in mid 50's should be a down year and 20s and 10s very good seasons.
He needed to be fired immediately after Texas A&M game. Kelly and LSU owe him nothing for the poor product he put out on the field. Would have gave fans and recruits a sense of hope LSU is serious about defense. What recruit wants to play for a house read and react D? 5 star talent go to waste? Harold Perkins perfect example of what opposing coaches are telling recruits about LSU.
Holy shite the insanity here is epic. Swim back into the mud minnowbrain
Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:09 pm to uscpuke
You need better and smarter players to run more complex schemes. They go hand in hand
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:09 pm to Carbonman
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Experts? Media? The word "expert" is freaking overused. It's thrown around like dirty underwear like the word hero. Who Are they? You, the sports writer? The media? The sports writers are just their opinions and like a holes everyone has one. Media? The media is biased and certainly not "experts". Well I played college ball. I also stay in touch with a lot of coaches. None I know agree with the House mob here.
You seriously did not base your entire argument around appeal to authority fallacy with BK then discount a greater number of authority figures who disagree. By expert I mean analysts, former players, former coaches.
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So called experts and the media didn't predict BK would be the West champ and beat Bama his first year.
Nor could anyone have since we only won due to Bama having an extra loss. It was a fluke season where we won with 3 losses. By that reasoning we underperformed this year and are on a downward trajectory.
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Last question; did House "scheme" properly last year when we won the SEC West?
I don't recall ever once saying the word scheme. My personal opinion is that House is an NFL guy and can't recruit. A sentiment I've heard others agree with. You can blame lack of talent, but not when the lack of talent is also his fault. That also goes for player development which plays back into recruiting as players don't want to go somewhere that won't develop them into NFL talent.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:06 pm to uscpuke
Imagine thinking our dumbass DC that hasn’t made a single adjustment all year was actually the guy who finally decides to make a defensive adjustment on the 12th & final game of the year
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:19 pm to Carbonman
I do know this. LSU played the best defense they played all year against Florida in the last minute of the game.
LSU had no reason to play hard because the game was decided and it was under a minute to play.
So after marching down the field with ease, Fla had 1st down on LSU 5 yd line. LSU had been in the same semi prevent scheme they played all year, and it seemed inevitable Fla would score easily since LSU had no real reason to try to stop them....but something changed and the team had a fire lit under them...they pressed coverage on the outside and blitzed like crazy for all 4 plays and Fla couldn't complete a pass. Why then? It was something that had been missing from the defense all year, and the team responded to the attacking scheme.
That is what frustrated most LSU fans this year. CB's playing 8 yds off the receiver and backing up at the snap. The D line didn't have a chance to pressure the qb into a mistake because the scheme allowed for a wide open receiver 6-10 yds downfield on dang near every play this season. That was House's scheme and hard to watch. IF House couldn't see that and attack more, then I don't want to see his scheme anymore. You can have him.
LSU had no reason to play hard because the game was decided and it was under a minute to play.
So after marching down the field with ease, Fla had 1st down on LSU 5 yd line. LSU had been in the same semi prevent scheme they played all year, and it seemed inevitable Fla would score easily since LSU had no real reason to try to stop them....but something changed and the team had a fire lit under them...they pressed coverage on the outside and blitzed like crazy for all 4 plays and Fla couldn't complete a pass. Why then? It was something that had been missing from the defense all year, and the team responded to the attacking scheme.
That is what frustrated most LSU fans this year. CB's playing 8 yds off the receiver and backing up at the snap. The D line didn't have a chance to pressure the qb into a mistake because the scheme allowed for a wide open receiver 6-10 yds downfield on dang near every play this season. That was House's scheme and hard to watch. IF House couldn't see that and attack more, then I don't want to see his scheme anymore. You can have him.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:26 pm to uscpuke
I’ll be HAPPY to eat crow if he gets fired. But he won’t. House is coming back. Some will bitch. Some will try to justify Kelly’s inaction. But he’s coming back. Just you wait and see. Hold your breath waiting for him to be fired. He won’t be.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:34 am to entmd2002
Kelly can do whatever he wants for the next 5 -6 seasons with ZERO accountability. LSU is never going to pay a $30 Million + buyout.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:31 am to PUB
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You seriously did not base your entire argument around appeal to authority fallacy with BK then discount a greater number of authority figures who disagree. By expert I mean analysts, former players, former coaches.
An Arapaho indian once told a bloviating guy "you are heap big smoke no fire". Ok what coaches, analysts and players? Show me the quotes and where I can find them.
The only expert I will listen to is BK. Those mythical anal ist, former players and coaches don't carry any weight with me.
Until then you are " heap big smoke no fire"
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 7:34 am
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:38 am to uscpuke
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He proved he can make adjustments against A&M in the second half
There were no adjustments made at half in FSU, Alabama, Ole Miss, and several other games.
The real question is whether a retention of House is: a) an endorsement, ratification, or blessing of the poor gameplanning, tackling, schemes, utilization and adjustments this season; or, b) whether it was internally deemed unfair to scapegoat House because it wasn’t his gameplanning, schemes, utilization and adjustments being deployed and he was just following orders.
There’s no convenient excuse for House for the poor tackling and poor angles.
He probably gets the benefit of the doubt for the poor d-line technique.
Maybe he was told he couldn’t use Weeks, Stinson, Toviano, etc until later in the season despite that they were clearly better than other options. Maybe his scheme, game plans and in-game/halftime adjustments were handcuffed by superiors.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:25 am to uscpuke
Fire Matt House...PERIOD !
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