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re: It’s almost 2019 all over again with Hilton, Anderson, Nabors and Lacy
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:45 am to Odysseus32
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:45 am to Odysseus32
I'm not setting myself up for anything. I'm making the point that every offensive team will be compared to the 2019 team. It is what it is. That's where the bar is set.
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:46 am to derp
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I don’t recall ppl saying that team was a natty contender
There were quite a few people here that were saying the 2019 teams was going to be a natty contender.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:59 am to tigerbait2010
I agree, we can be really good on offense, but it won't look at all like 2019 except hopefully on the scoreboard.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:31 am to jawnybnsc
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I'm not setting myself up for anything. I'm making the point that every offensive team will be compared to the 2019 team. It is what it is. That's where the bar is set.
It’s very similar to beating Alabama and Saban. That’s where comparisons are made and the bar is set too. Appreciate your post.!
Posted on 8/14/23 at 10:14 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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The LSU team in 2019 is considered (by way more than just LSU fans) to be the greatest team of all time. I know people on here are really slow, especially the OP, but that is a huge arse deal. To think that LSU can replicate that team in just a few short years is pretty damn far fetched.
LSU opens the season against a top ten team on the road, and will be tested, just like 2019.
LSU has the most talented group of wide receivers and TE this year than any other college team just like 2019.
LSU’s QB is a talented transfer in his second and final season at LSU who is one of the top dual threat QB’s in the country just like 2019.
And has an LSU head coach in his second year, which has an explosive offense and an All SEC Dline, and a head coach who is willing to stop at nothing, gamble anything in order to kill the head of the snake at Alabama, and has an elite DC, just like in 2019.
LSU will never replicate the 2019 statistics, but LSU has a better than average chance of going undefeated and beating Alabama on the road, just like 2019, because they’re going to force offenses to throw more to keep up, just like 2019.
Have a nice day, turd!
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 10:17 am
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:23 am to TrueTigerTale
So it took you 5 pages, and me calling you dumb, to finally give the comparisons to the 2019 team that people have been asking you for.
I think some of your opinions are way off, like saying this is the best WR room in the country. But at least you said something with substance. That's an improvement I guess.
I think some of your opinions are way off, like saying this is the best WR room in the country. But at least you said something with substance. That's an improvement I guess.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:33 am to TrueTigerTale
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LSU opens the season against a top ten team on the road, and will be tested, just like 2019.
LSU opened with Georgia Southern in 2019
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LSU has the most talented group of wide receivers and TE this year than any other college team just like 2019.
The LSU group is good, but Ohio St. probably has the best group in the country.
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LSU’s QB is a talented transfer in his second and final season at LSU who is one of the top dual threat QB’s in the country just like 2019.
Burrow was tremendous at avoiding sacks. But I doubt anyone would call him a "dual threat".
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And has an LSU head coach in his second year, which has an explosive offense and an All SEC Dline, and a head coach who is willing to stop at nothing, gamble anything in order to kill the head of the snake at Alabama, and has an elite DC, just like in 2019.
Ed was in year 3. And while House may ultimately be great, Aranda had FAR more skins on the wall in terms of proving to be an "elite" DC than House does at this point.
Basically other than that it is just like 2019 all over again.
It doesn't have to be a comparison. This team is almost assuredly not going to be as good as that 2019 group. A group that had one of the best QBs in the NFL, and two of the best WRs in the NFL on offense. Nabers is a good player. Same for Thomas and others. But it's really had to see them matching Jefferson and Chase. That is an incredibly high bar to reach.
This team should be the best since 2019. But they won't replicate that team. Which is ok given they don't have to beat the 2019 team to win a NC. They just have to be the best team in 2023.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:38 pm to unctiger4
quote:JD is a bigger heisman favorite this year than JB was entering 2019 season.
Name one similarity between this years team and 2019 specifically
Coming off a 10 win season with a transfer QB in year 1 starting the next season ranked in the top 5 where we’re likely to see vast improvement in his game year 1 to year 2.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:05 pm to TrueTigerTale
This WR group can be very good but the'19 WR's were on another level. Also they had the best QB ever throwing it to them (no respect to JD).
Posted on 8/14/23 at 2:24 pm to Alt26
Well you came from the top rope on poor little TrueTiger. He won't be able to return to his own thread.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 2:41 pm to TrueTigerTale
Although it's tough to say we are looking at a repeat of 2019 - I think there are some intriguing similar trends that could put us on a path to really having an outstanding season that possibly rivals that amazing 2019 season:
First, Joe Burrow was good his first year at LSU, but by no means the Heisman Trophy winner he was in 2019. Also, no one (outside of LSU) had Justin Jefferson as the stud 1st rounder he became - he had 54 catches, 800+ yards and 6 TDs as a sophomore. Chase was solid during his freshman year but still didn't put up any kind of dominant display. CEH was behind Nick Brossette in 2018 in practically every rushing statistic. No one, nationally, saw the potential for the momentous uptick LSU experienced offensively, but the same similarities were there for 2018 to 2019 as there are in 2022 to 2023, and possibly even some more positives that weren't there in 2019.
Daniels is in his second year and posted more rushing and passing yards, rushing and passing touchdowns, better passing percentage, less interceptions and a better passer rating in his first year versus Burrow's (not saying he's better than Burrow - just that he had better stats in their respective first years).
CEH had one of the greatest statistical seasons in LSU history in 2019 at the running back position, and LSU had TDP as the second RB, and John Emery as the third. Well, for this year's running back room, Noah Cain, Josh Williams, and Logan Diggs 2022 stats are all in line with CEH's production from 2018 AND LSU still has John Emery - as our 4th running back.
And though all three wide receivers showed glimpses of their electric potential, JJ, Chase, and Marshall's statistical production in 2018 was less than dominant. This year, Nabors is coming off of a more productive sophomore season than JJ's 2018, Thomas' was better than Chase's, and Lacey's was better than Marshall's. Again, not saying this year's group is better than 2019's corps (because that would be ridiculous), just that their 2022 statistical production was better than that group's 2018 production. Throw in Hilton and Anderson and the odds are definitely in our favor of having a dominant group of wide receivers.
At TE, Mason Taylor's 2022 was better than either Stephen Sullivan or Foster Moreau's 2018 and just slightly off of Thaddeus Moss's 2019. Add in a 4 star frosh and a stud transfer and our TE room is looking primed.
In case you missed it, LSU's defense this year is loaded - Aranda may have been more experienced, but this defense has dominant studs everywhere, and a couple (possible) generational talents in Smith and Perkins.
Finally (and sorry for hijacking this post), CBK is better coach than CEO. He's better at X's and O's, he's better prepared, and he doesn't have to rely on his coordinators to make all of the calls on game day. This team has a real chance to win it all this year and maybe even build that argument to be compared to 2019.
But, that's just my opinion.
First, Joe Burrow was good his first year at LSU, but by no means the Heisman Trophy winner he was in 2019. Also, no one (outside of LSU) had Justin Jefferson as the stud 1st rounder he became - he had 54 catches, 800+ yards and 6 TDs as a sophomore. Chase was solid during his freshman year but still didn't put up any kind of dominant display. CEH was behind Nick Brossette in 2018 in practically every rushing statistic. No one, nationally, saw the potential for the momentous uptick LSU experienced offensively, but the same similarities were there for 2018 to 2019 as there are in 2022 to 2023, and possibly even some more positives that weren't there in 2019.
Daniels is in his second year and posted more rushing and passing yards, rushing and passing touchdowns, better passing percentage, less interceptions and a better passer rating in his first year versus Burrow's (not saying he's better than Burrow - just that he had better stats in their respective first years).
CEH had one of the greatest statistical seasons in LSU history in 2019 at the running back position, and LSU had TDP as the second RB, and John Emery as the third. Well, for this year's running back room, Noah Cain, Josh Williams, and Logan Diggs 2022 stats are all in line with CEH's production from 2018 AND LSU still has John Emery - as our 4th running back.
And though all three wide receivers showed glimpses of their electric potential, JJ, Chase, and Marshall's statistical production in 2018 was less than dominant. This year, Nabors is coming off of a more productive sophomore season than JJ's 2018, Thomas' was better than Chase's, and Lacey's was better than Marshall's. Again, not saying this year's group is better than 2019's corps (because that would be ridiculous), just that their 2022 statistical production was better than that group's 2018 production. Throw in Hilton and Anderson and the odds are definitely in our favor of having a dominant group of wide receivers.
At TE, Mason Taylor's 2022 was better than either Stephen Sullivan or Foster Moreau's 2018 and just slightly off of Thaddeus Moss's 2019. Add in a 4 star frosh and a stud transfer and our TE room is looking primed.
In case you missed it, LSU's defense this year is loaded - Aranda may have been more experienced, but this defense has dominant studs everywhere, and a couple (possible) generational talents in Smith and Perkins.
Finally (and sorry for hijacking this post), CBK is better coach than CEO. He's better at X's and O's, he's better prepared, and he doesn't have to rely on his coordinators to make all of the calls on game day. This team has a real chance to win it all this year and maybe even build that argument to be compared to 2019.
But, that's just my opinion.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 3:11 pm to Alt26
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Aranda had FAR more skins on the wall in terms of proving to be an "elite" DC than House does at this point.
Texas, Alabama and Ole Miss lit Aranda’s defense up in 2019, and that’s despite LSU having first rounders in their secondary.
According to Hunt on 104.5, LSU has no first rounders in their secondary, let’s see how our former NFL DC House handles that! Be prepared to be schooled by a master, House!
Ouch!
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:00 pm to TrueTigerTale
How many years it took for the rant to try and compare the team to 2019.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:40 pm to TrueTigerTale
He only posted this to put Chris Hilton in a list because he's from Zachary and that is all they matters to the OP.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:02 pm to KTrain915
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He only posted this to put Chris Hilton in a list because he's from Zachary and that is all they matters to the OP.
For the record, I watched Chris in the highschool regular season and in the playoffs. And the one common theme everyone said was, how he could leap out of the stadium and had soft hands. LSU has just won a title in baseball in part due due to a former Zachary High player, and may do so again in football. So get over it drama queen.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 6:43 pm to sunnydaze
quote:This is a silly comment. Clyde had more carries than any of them. Starter doesn't matter, these aren't QBs. Most people talked shite about Clyde before 2019. Many expected Emery would be the starter by game 6 prior to the season.
Clyde wasn’t the starter in 2018 bro he was 2nd string behind brossette, awful take
None of the RBs last year showed me anything to believe they are elite or can be elite
All these RBs showed me something. Goodwin and Williams would both be 1000 yard 5.5+ ypc backs if they weren't injury prone. Cain averaged 5.4 ypc and was a bulldozer inside the 10 yard line. He's now well more than a year removed from his Penn St injuries. Emery is a mixed bag. He has the talent, but not the direction and technique. He can at least give you a few spectacular plays. Diggs had 1100 yards from scrimmage as the #2 RB with ND. Kaleb Jackson just showed you how impressive he really is (the most physically talented of the bunch).
Posted on 8/20/23 at 6:43 pm to tigerbait2010
quote:exactly
Our fans are complete psychopaths to constantly compare each year’s team to 2019 lmao
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:53 pm to tigerbait2010
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This offense is going to be impressive but can we drop the comparisons to tGoat offense? There won’t ever be another walk through the door
No reason not to compare to 2019. And yes, there will be other offenses that good.
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