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re: RIP Toss dive
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:47 pm to tripsright60
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:47 pm to tripsright60
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It actually forces the RB to take his eyes off of the line and look at the ball to catch it you idiot.
Hey when a qb is handing off the ball where does the rb HAVE TO GO?
When you toss that ball to the rb he can go anywhere.
Educate yourself brother. I remember my first time talking sports.
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:47 pm to smil3432
RIP
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:47 pm to Stephen1979
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I'm the one the who brought context to the thread lmao. You took the OP so literal, it's pointless discussing it further
How about you go back and read the posts by the OP in this very thread. He prefers the handoff to the toss dive. He does not mention playcalling predictability once. Are you just using this thread to use the term "concrete thinker" as much as possible?
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:48 pm to Cargeaux89
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But when it's your most run play, % goes up for big plays.
It wasnt even close to our most used play.
In 2015 we ran a 3wr set 49 % of the time. It was by far our most used set and it was the leading set in 10 games.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:49 pm to MemberSince2003
I dont think this dude realizes that three 4 yard gains is a first down.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:50 pm to MemberSince2003
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Not sure if it's been said here yet but THANK GOD we won't have to this anymore
That's the OP. Not sure what you see there about a handoff
And the term definitely fits you and the others taking it so literally
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:51 pm to Stephen1979
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hat's the OP. Not sure what you see there about a handoff
And the term definitely fits you and the others taking it so literally
We get it bro. You thought Miles called bad plays.
You have an original an interesting opinion.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:52 pm to Stephen1979
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Lmao. Ok Rick.
I'm sure the toss dive will still be part of the play book. Rest easy
What is there to laugh at? You made a statement about how often we run the same plays. I was educating you that all these high flying spread offenses run less variations than us.
Here ill post qoutes from chip kelly.
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This actually shouldn't come as a surprise to those who know Kelly's system well. While a coach at the University of Oregon, Kelly gave a talk on his offense at a coaching clinic and explained that his running game - the key to his offense - has just four plays.
"This past season, we finished second in the country in rushing the football," Kelly said. "We average 6.2 yards per carry. We have four running plays. We run the inside zone, outside zone, counter, and draw."
Talk about the same plays over and over.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:52 pm to SolviteSekai
I get it too bro. You're really sad bc an archaic play is gonna have a reduced role in the play book.
Way to evolve with the game bro
Way to evolve with the game bro
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:53 pm to smil3432
Who said ? that might become his favorite play if he has the ballplayers to do it !
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:55 pm to Stephen1979
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get it too bro. You're really sad bc an archaic play is gonna have a reduced role in the play book.
Way to evolve with the game bro
Yeah bill belichik is a dinosaur and doesnt know what coaching is.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:55 pm to munchman
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What's wrong with the toss dive?
Linebackers don't bite on the QB play action fake. There is no hesitation from the LBs. They know exactly where the RB is going. If they shed the FB block they can stuff the play pretty easily.
Against inferior talent LSU executes it pretty well. Against superior talent like Alabama or equal talent like Florida, not so much.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:55 pm to Stephen1979
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That's the OP. Not sure what you see there about a handoff And the term definitely fits you and the others taking it so literally
I meant the actual original poster that kept posting in this thread. Don't be so concrete. He prefers the handoff over the toss dive. You interjected in his defense with a case he was not making himself.
I do like your use of terms you learned in your intro psych class, however...
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:57 pm to GumboPot
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They know exactly where the RB is going
This is exactly the opposite. When handing the ball off they know where the rb is.
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Against superior talent like Alabama or equal talent like Florida, not so much.
Please point to the running plays that work against bama
AND WE RAN ALL OVER FLORIDA LAST YEAR WITH THE TOSS DIVE.
We ran for 221 yards last year but yeah we struggled. Inswear some of you dont know that you can look this shite up before posting.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Talk about the same plays over and over.
Kelly got away with this because his Hawaiian olympic track star QBs were 40 percent faster than the Arizona linebackers.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:59 pm to GumboPot
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equal talent like Florida, not so much.
We rushed for over 200 yards in 2014 and 2015. Its like you dont know that you can look this shite up before posting.
2013 vs uf= 175 yards
2014 vs UF= over 200
2015 vs UF= over 200
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:01 pm to SolviteSekai
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Kelly got away with this because his Hawaiian olympic track star QBs were 40 percent faster than the Arizona linebackers.
Yeah. But a bunch of these hunh teams run far fewer different plays. Thats why they run them at the pace they do. These players arent like nfl players. They only have 20 hours a week on the field with coaches.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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This is exactly the opposite. When handing the ball off they know where the rb is.
However they have to hesitate to confirm that the QB is not going to hold on to the ball and throw a pass.
The toss dive allows the defenders to fill the gaps earlier.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:08 pm to GumboPot
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However they have to hesitate to confirm that the QB is not going to hold on to the ball and throw a pass.
Stop acting like lbs and safeties are just standing back their looking into the backfield.
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The toss dive allows the defenders to fill the gaps earlier.
The toss dive lets the rb react to the defense earlier and he isnt committed to a spot as long as a hand off.
Let me ask...
If this play is so shitty and flawed why does Bill Belichick let his offense run the play?
If GumboPot can easily sea the flaws in this play, why can't Bill Belichik?
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There is nothing wrong with the toss dive
UnLES it's the ONLY frickING PLAY YOU CALL!!!
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