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How will the next generation handle increased DEI focus in hiring and enrollment?

Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2981 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:48 am
Some people will dismiss this as paranoia, but this organized discrimination is becoming a bigger issue for people under 30 years old, and it will likely get worse in the future. DEI is clearly metastasizing across corporate America and within higher education. It's impacting everything from matriculation in medical schools to hiring decisions at major American companies.

Should we be trying to build a business or side hustle for the next generation to inherit? Should we be teaching them to work for themselves instead of for a company? Should we be teaching them to identify this type of discrimination and avoid entities that perpetuate it?

If you are Asian or white, are you doing anything in particular to help prepare your kids for increased discrimination around enrollment decisions or hiring practices by major companies? If so - what are you doing?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13393 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:50 am to
This shite will die out. It already has in my company. Peaked post-George Floyd in 2021ish, along with a push for everyone to work from home and people "silent quitting", now everything is rapidly going back to normal.


ETA:

It won't die out in places like California or New York where they have and continue to memorialize these things with legislation, but I will not be living there

End of the day, it's about money and prioritizing DEI over skill/experience will cost companies money.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 9:55 am
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27131 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:52 am to
Muldrow v. City of St. Louis SCOTUS decision may unravel DEI within the next decade or so
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:53 am to
My company is getting around this by just offshoring the entry level stuff.

So we are still screwing the next generation, but it's better because we discriminate against all young Americans equally now.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20098 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:55 am to
I was born and raised in America. I just claim Native American.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Muldrow v. City of St. Louis SCOTUS decision may unravel DEI within the next decade or so


This.

DEI just took a serious 9-0 blow from SCOTUS.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Should we be trying to build a business or side hustle for the next generation to inherit? Should we be teaching them to work for themselves instead of for a company?


Yes. But know that the IRS will eventually harass them, depending on who is in office at the time.

quote:

Should we be teaching them to identify this type of discrimination and avoid entities that perpetuate it?


This is a lesson that they need to learn on their own IMO.

I don't like to teach them something that will make them cynical especially as they are young and hopeful about the world. They will learn this lesson without me eventually. It's probably better that it happens later.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Muldrow v. City of St. Louis SCOTUS decision may unravel DEI within the next decade or so



They will invent another way to tilt the playing field. Just a matter of time.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27131 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:01 am to
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They will invent another way to tilt the playing field. Just a matter of time.



I think the precedent has been set with Title VII grievances going forth but it will take some time for it to play out
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1431 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:03 am to
We will continue to sink into a 3rd world shitehole as DEI takes over. I feel bad for normal kids and what their quality of physicians etc will be. At least now they can demand an older doctor who still has skill and intelligence. I tell my kids to never see one who looks as if could be a DEI graduate.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9590 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:04 am to
Didn’t Earn It
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4652 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:07 am to
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This shite will die out.

it absolutely will not die out. this wishful thinking gets repeated ad nauseum on this board, and i dont blame anyone for this coping mechanism, but it's time we accept that DEI, Marxism, and this revolutionary mindset doesnt die out, ever. the long march through the institutions is almost complete, and once it is done, there is no going back.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13393 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:08 am to
quote:

it absolutely will not die out. this wishful thinking gets repeated ad nauseum on this board, and i dont blame anyone for this coping mechanism, but it's time we accept that DEI, Marxism, and this revolutionary mindset doesnt die out, ever. the long march through the institutions is almost complete, and once it is done, there is no going back.


I work at a major multi-national company and it has died out a TON the last couple of years. Removed from new employee onboarding, removed as an official criteria for hiring, etc.

ETA:

At one point they tried to tie comp for certain groups to their DEI score and it was gone in like 6 months
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44815 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:13 am to
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End of the day, it's about money and prioritizing DEI over skill/experience will cost companies money.


The left finding a way to separate access to capital from fiduciary duty might be their biggest win to date. Major corporations are being essentially held hostage by institutional lenders who won't provide access to capital unless they meet certain DEI metrics.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13393 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:15 am to
quote:

The left finding a way to separate access to capital from fiduciary duty might be their biggest win to date. Major corporations are being essentially held hostage by institutional lenders who won't provide access to capital unless they meet certain DEI metrics.


I'm no expert on this piece, and while that is a scary precedent, it has always been my understanding that those DEI thresholds are extremely low.

That is not good they exist though, I agree.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4028 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:16 am to
Dropping trou
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:18 am to
quote:

The left finding a way to separate access to capital from fiduciary duty might be their biggest win to date. Major corporations are being essentially held hostage by institutional lenders who won't provide access to capital unless they meet certain DEI metrics.


Blows my mind that this actually happens without being challenged in court.

As far as investment; I've seen some push back against hedge funds that have social or DEI priorities. States like Tennessee, Louisiana, and Texas are required by law to invest their state pensions into funds that maximize value and they've had to shift their investments recently because of it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I work at a major multi-national company and it has died out a TON the last couple of years. Removed from new employee onboarding, removed as an official criteria for hiring, etc.



Wish I could say the same for my company.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71027 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:20 am to
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I tell my kids to never see one who looks as if could be a DEI graduate


Ben Carson "looks" like a DEI graduate, but he's the best in the world at his craft.

I'm more worried about getting a doctor who went to a woke med school and doesn't know what a woman is.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:24 am to
There will always be intangible elements that are difficult to quantify when deciding on who to accept and who to reject.......and it will have a very strong correlation with race.

This kind of discriminatory behavior has been going on for a long time. It's kind of an open secret among medical school applicants. Your race clearly influences the threshold for grades and test scores you have to meet to be competitive.

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