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re: Riding around on Christmas morning and seeing how much land is devoted to parking lots

Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:50 am to
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7304 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:50 am to
Parking lots should be made of permeable material to allow water to be absorbed instead of just running off
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7568 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:55 am to
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Parking lots should be made of permeable material to allow water to be absorbed instead of just running off




This only really works with a properly designed underground retention system, and the associated initial investment, maintenance, and upkeep associated with it.

Just putting pervious pavers does nothing once the ground/gravel below is saturated.

Said pervious pavers are also not durable enough for most commercial traffic, mostly due to lack of a solid substrate to rest on. FFS you can barely get businesses to keep their asphalt parking lots in shape.

In summary, your "pervious pavement" is another thing that sounds great in concept but doesn't work out too swell in reality.
This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 11:59 am
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58408 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:59 am to
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Why the hostility?


What are you my wife? She can’t take anything I say without accusing me of being an arse.

I was amazed that you would have that free time.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7304 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:08 pm to
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In summary, your "pervious pavement" is another thing that sounds great in concept but doesn't work out too swell in reality.


The whole lot doesn’t need to be permeable. Make the travel lanes concrete/asphalt and other less trafficked areas more absorbent.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7800 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:41 pm to
The thing that always strikes me when I come back to visit family in a small town in Alabama is the amount of unused, mostly abandoned paved lots.

There is pretty much enough parking now for every person in the entire county to park within walking distance of any store all at the same time.

Yet, when I come back next summer I'll see 20 more acres of woods cleared and more metal buildings with big parking lots with twice as many newly abandoned ones all around.


In the town paper, I'll read a local politician bragging about growth.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58326 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:55 pm to
Riveting story
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6786 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 2:05 pm to
Subscription driving service with driverless technology will probably be here soon enough.

Basically driverless Uber is what I'm envisioning.
This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13052 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 2:32 pm to
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What are you my wife? She can’t take anything I say without accusing me of being an arse.

Can you see the writing on the wall, or do you need help?
quote:

I was amazed that you would have that free time.

Exhibit A
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 2:38 pm to
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as the vehicle is the most efficient mode of transportation we have.


“vehicle” is a weird way to spell “railroad”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262334 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 2:42 pm to
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“vehicle” is a weird way to spell “railroad”



Americans don't like spirit or frontier, you think they'll ride railroads?

Try getting the land together for a high speed railroad in this county, then talk about "efficiency" Not gonna ever happen on a large scale.


This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4143 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 3:14 pm to
Don’t worry there won’t be anywhere to go shortly. Or anything worth buying once you get there.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90006 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 3:26 pm to
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“vehicle” is a weird way to spell “railroad”


lulz…
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35599 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 3:28 pm to
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be here soon enough.


We will probably be lucky to see it in our lifetimes.
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 3:40 pm to
Railroad is objectively the most efficient mode of moving anything across land.

Maybe you’re both spelling “convenient” as “efficient” instead.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39352 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 4:35 pm to
We should ban the automobile and all use ATV's instead. The gubmint fooks up I-10 and there's gridlock? Through the median to work, it is.

Never mind, some dickhead would prolly want to enforce electric ATV's and not have enough electric to charge them.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7907 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 4:36 pm to
And ban parking minimums.

Shitty urban planning around the automobile was one of the greatest sins of the 20th century.

Car culture is cringe.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262334 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Railroad is objectively the most efficient mode of moving anything across land.



Not if passengers don't utilize.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1910 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 5:08 pm to
Every place without parking lots is a shithole. It’s a direct correlation. Moving from Northern California to Southern California blew my mind. There was nowhere where you could just park your car easily (or for free) and leave it for however long you wanted. Hell sometimes I’d leave it for a weekend or something.

It’s the new thing I look for if I’m scouting out a new place to live. Do we have parking lots? Or is it some shitty faux European pussy bullshite where’s it’s “so much more enjoyable to walk and take public transit”

Eat a dick.

Public transit is a place for the homeless to defecate
Posted by Nathan Hail
Part of a Vast Network
Member since May 2022
655 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 5:10 pm to
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It might be the only day of the year when almost all of them are empty. With no vehicles around the scale of all those asphalt surfaces at strip malls and Walmarts becomes readily apparent. What if they weren’t needed and were something else?


what would we do with roads? can't just stop with parking lots, keep going down your line of thought.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
66030 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 5:15 pm to
The seminal tome on the subject-

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