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re: US military shoots down Chinese spy balloon over Atlantic Ocean

Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by ItzMe1972
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:55 pm to
AIM-9X Sidewinder (Air Force) - $472,000
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
5155 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:55 pm to
Gov't disabled data transmission on it as soon as was close enough. Flying junk at that point and if there is actually something there, easier to recover in shallow water than remote wilderness with the possibility it's intact.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6647 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Trump was bought by Russia.


Wasn't it Obama and Killary that gave Uranium to Russia.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9696 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Why do non gun owners always reference the 22LR?

He was responding to the OP.
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No, but my Barrett M82 might.

Genuinely not sure if serious.
Posted by CaptN
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2013
378 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:03 pm to
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How did they shoot it down?


Sharks..... With lasers!!!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:03 pm to
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Sharks..... With lasers!!!



nope, they were out of sharks due to PETA protests
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27211 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:07 pm to
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Shooting it down after it’s out of the country makes no sense.




We've had this thing hacked for days. Let it tell us all it knows, then shoot it down over our territorial waters and recover it.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:13 pm to
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Wasn't it Obama and Killary that gave Uranium to Russia.



Pretty much every president has done some shady backdoor dealings.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:16 pm to
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youreally think your .22 can shoot 6 miles straight up into the air?

I would jump on a trampoline and fire on the way up to give the bullet some extra oomph.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15352 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:17 pm to
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youreally think your .22 can shoot 6 miles straight up into the air?


Was 12 miles up.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
43059 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:18 pm to
I still can’t get beyond the fact that this thing should’ve been shot down two days ago.
Posted by Coldcushcush
Member since Jul 2022
172 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:20 pm to
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Nothing partisan, unless you think it is, about questioning why a Chinese spy balloon, per our government, is allowed to cross our country.



there is nothing that balloon can see that their satelites can't and already have. we have a better chance of recovering whatever instruments are underneath the balloon in the water, especially as close to shore as we shot it down. shoot it down over a mountain and the instruments get shattered to pieces and it may take days to recover them.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:24 pm to
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there is nothing that balloon can see that their satelites can't and already have.


this.

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shoot it down over a mountain and the instruments get shattered to pieces and it may take days to recover them.



or....even worse....it lands on someone and kills them.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30819 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:24 pm to
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How does a balloon have enough of a heat signature for Sidewinder to lock on and track it?

absorbing sunlight it would easily have more of an IR or heat signature than the air or clouds near it. fox 1 fox 1 boom
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20607 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:30 pm to
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there is nothing that balloon can see that their satelites can't and already have. we have a better chance of recovering whatever instruments are underneath the balloon in the water, especially as close to shore as we shot it down. shoot it down over a mountain and the instruments get shattered to pieces and it may take days to recover them.



Last I checked there aren't many mountains in Iowa and South Dakota.

You are making a major assumption on this not having anything improved over a satellite. if it didn't, why launch it?

Finally, you understand that hitting water at terminal velocity is not much different then hitting the ground right? Plus water has currents, waves, wind, etc. to move shite around. Drop it in a corn field and it likely stays there.
Posted by HiCap
Member since Oct 2017
25 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:34 pm to
Been traveling and a bit out of the loop. We saw one of these balloons off the coast of Costa Rica on Thursday. Any discussion on how many of these things have been sighted?
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6647 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:35 pm to
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Last I checked there aren't many mountains in Iowa and South Dakota.

You are making a major assumption on this not having anything improved over a satellite. if it didn't, why launch it?

Finally, you understand that hitting water at terminal velocity is not much different then hitting the ground right? Plus water has currents, waves, wind, etc. to move shite around. Drop it in a corn field and it likely stays there.


You are so right. I find it amazing some people are so narrow and short sighted.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
2056 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:38 pm to
I only read there was one over the US and Latin America so far
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20607 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:40 pm to
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You are so right. I find it amazing some people are so narrow and short sighted.


Ha. None of us know much of importance related to this. But worrying about the low chance of hitting someone over many areas of the midwest is incredibly low on the concern factor of the military.

I'd bet they care more that over the water civilians can more easily be prevented from seeing it before the government, as an example. Drop it in someone's farm field and there's pictures online before the government can hide it.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3023 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:00 pm to
Isn’t using an F-22 to knock out a balloon like bringing a bazooka to a knife fight? Is that pilot going to get a new call sign now? (“Needle”, “Pinprick”, etc…)
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