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Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
I guess if he's arguing for Avenatti taking the stand it does. I'm sure the question would be asked.
Is Trump on trial for banging Stormy? As in, if he just admits it and moves on as the guy is wishing for, would he go to prison?
Is Trump on trial for banging Stormy? As in, if he just admits it and moves on as the guy is wishing for, would he go to prison?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:57 pm to BBONDS25
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Not the hill you want to die on. I can confirm SFP is an attorney.
OK so some random poster on a message board says so.
I need a good PI lawyer in SWLA, who do you recommend?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:59 pm to Drizzt
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We can’t believe any of the people in this sham trial.
The money flowed from Trump's company to Stormy/CPL. We know this is a fact.
The trial is trying to piece together the most logical explanation of how and why, based on evidence to be introduced at trial.
Ultimately this trial boils down to 2 possibilities.
1. Cohen committed fraud and stole the money from Trump' company (and didn't keep the stolen money and paid Stormy/CPL for...reasons)
2. Cohen facilitated and obfuscated payments to Stormy/CPL from a company Trump owned.
If 1 is shown to be more likely, the case is over, even though it could still technically violate the law.
If 2 is shown to be more likely, THEN the jury has to compare that behavior within the wacky NY business records law
If the jury then finds this behavior violated the law, THEN they have to consider the implications on the campaign (or else it's s prescribed misdemeanor charge)
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:00 pm to GRTiger
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Is Trump on trial for banging Stormy?
No, more his failure to admit he banged her (in a convoluted way).
ronricks was saying this would have all never amounted to anything had Trump just admitted to the affair.
His exact quote
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If Trump just came out back in 2016 and said “hell yes I fricked her!” Nobody would be discussing it today
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:02 pm to ronricks
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So now we believe Avenatti
I’m going to share something with you. People, all people have flaws. Sometimes they do good, other times they do evil. Sometime they tell the truth and sometimes they lie.
You must have the ability to separate what is truth from persona.
If you can’t do that, that’s sad.
When Avenatti says Trump is being singled out for political reasons, it’s fact and everyone knows it.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:02 pm to ronricks
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I don’t but apparently Trump himself cares hence why he just won’t admit he did it and move on instead of continuing to lie about it
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:03 pm to GRTiger
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Oh I see. I was trying to tie his words into something relevant to this thread. My mistake.
Sorry. I wasn't trying to be a smartass. His mind is fixated on bashing Trump with every post. Not necessarily adding to a discussion.
It's irrelevant if Trump banged her.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
I’ve got a question for you, and I’d certainly welcome any feedback from your likeminded buddies. This is a general question, there is no particular identity involved at this stage:
In terms of the wealthy, either famous or not, would you agree that it’s not at all a rare occurrence for opportunists to come along and shake them down for money using threats of fictitious salacious leaks to the public……which could be averted through payment of some sum of money?
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:07 pm to davyjones
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In terms of the wealthy, either famous or not, would you agree that it’s not at all a rare occurrence for opportunists to come along and shake them down for money using threats of fictitious salacious leaks to the public……which could be averted through payment of some sum of money?
I'm sure that happens all the time.
However, even if this was a shakedown, it would still potentially violate the wacky NY business records law
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:09 pm to LSUbest
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OK so some random poster on a message board says so. I need a good PI lawyer in SWLA, who do you recommend?
Lee Hoffos or one of the attorneys at Rusty Stutes office.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:10 pm to BBONDS25
I was going to suggest Michael Ned, due to the poster's attitude
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:10 pm to ronricks
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Why the need to lie about it if nobody cares? See how easy this is? If Trump just came out back in 2016 and said “hell yes I fricked her!” Nobody would be discussing it today.
sure, Jan.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Dude's mental.
You were probably cheering him on when he was dumping on Orange
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:18 pm to idlewatcher
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You were probably cheering him on when he was dumping on Orange
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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However, even if this was a shakedown, it would still potentially violate the wacky NY business records law
Yeah, I’m aware, which is why I wasn’t at all referring to that aspect. I was referring to exactly what was being discussed in terms of the commentary related to things like
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No, more his failure to admit he banged her
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The shift from MAGA baws since 2016 (when this was a badge of alpha honor) to 2024 (where many deny it even happened) has been something to see.
Nobody cares. Even the Evangelicals didn't care about the immorality.
and so on and so forth, the implication clearly being that as far as you’re (and likeminded buddies) concerned, it’s a foregone conclusion, he’s a dirty dog who has only made his situation worse by being dishonest and failing to admit the affair. Yes I’m taking a few liberties there for illustrative purposes, but it’s an accurate inference nonetheless.
So considering your earlier acknowledgment that shakedowns of this nature are not a rare occurrence, what’s an attorney doing with all this ugly and lamentable speculation and assumption of facts? I assume that you now would agree, given the earlier acknowledgement, that you don’t know if the incident occurred and it may well not have.
Of course you’re entitled to your opinion as to whether it actually happened or not. Mine is that it was an instance of the aforementioned shakedown, especially in light of the involvement of slime ball Avenatti.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I really feel bad for people like him who have to pretend they're a big deal even after being disgraced and being imprisoned for 10+ years in jail.
Dude's mental.
No idea why this is downvoted. Avenatti clearly has some bizarre zero shame complex. It's like he thinks if he keeps acting like a big shot he'll be considered a big shot.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:26 pm to tiggerthetooth
He's a loser, though I am enjoying the logic of the panicked "oh now you believe that guy" responses. As if it's somwhow hypocritical to believe someone when they say the opposite of what they were saying when you didn't believe them.
Cop: did you kill the mailman?
Suspect: No
Cop: I think you did
Suspect: ok I did
Cop: why should I believe you? You're a liar!
Cop: did you kill the mailman?
Suspect: No
Cop: I think you did
Suspect: ok I did
Cop: why should I believe you? You're a liar!
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