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re: Securing Schools - How I would start with most schools.

Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36140 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:07 pm to
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. by AmosMosesAndTwins
So all the kids saved from school shootings will burn to death in your fiery Titanic deathbox?


No. Doors open from the inside.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:07 pm to
nah, would cost more. but i’d be more willing to accept that as a tax payer than just burning $40 billion. Ohh, i mean, aiding Ukraine.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17279 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:08 pm to
Bus loading area?
Busses themselves
Bus stops
Football games
Dances
Award ceremonies
Where do you draw the line?

This POS was already showing up on radar, he /she/shim should of been eliminated from the herd

The back door to the school should of been locked
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15217 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:08 pm to
Not going to bash away. Something will be done. And it may even include some of the things you list. Any stranger/adult coming into the school has to pass security and sign in.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

The back door to the school should of been locked



Technically he has a gun. Is a door lock really going to stop him if he wants in?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17890 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

No. Doors open from the inside.


Metal doors? As in metal doors meant for stopping bullets? How’s a 7 year old going to push that open?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36140 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:10 pm to
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. Any stranger/adult coming into the school has to pass security and sign in.


Yep, I have to be buzzed in at my kids school already.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:10 pm to
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DOD contractor
+1
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12814 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Doors open from the inside.


What’s to stop someone from posting up outside of the school property and opening fire when the kids are walking out or to the bus?

Or do you have a prison plan for that too?
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17279 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

The back door to the school should of been locked Technically he has a gun. Is a door lock really going to stop him if he wants in?


How long do you think it would take to breech a door with an AR From an untrained coward? Long enough for the people on the other side to get into a safe place
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36140 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Metal doors? As in metal doors meant for stopping bullets? How’s a 7 year old going to push that open?


They don't have to stop bullets. Just not be able to be shot and opened.

Kids can hide away from the doors.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:12 pm to
Depends on the door. If it's anything like most of the schools I went to you just shoot out the glass and walk through
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17890 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

They don't have to stop bullets. Just not be able to be shot and opened.

Kids can hide away from the doors.


How does EMS get in? Secret password?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36140 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

What’s to stop someone from posting up outside of the school property and opening fire when the kids are walking out or to the bus?


I guess you didn't read my whole post.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17279 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Depends on the door. If it's anything like most of the schools I went to you just shoot out the glass and walk through


Look at the videos , the doors were not glass
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1833 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Bash away, lol.


Wait. No razor wire??

I think 2 guard towers and one Apache helicopter would complete this new school transformation.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109125 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:14 pm to
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So school is prison?


No more than my work is.


Well that’s your fricking fault. I love my job and don’t work for a fricking prison. So long as I make them money they leave me the frick alone.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6031 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Fence, doors, and cameras are cheap.

Uh, have you priced these lately? I helped our small private school review quotes and then manage the contractor for access controls and security cameras about 4 years ago and the budget was close to $300k and they expected to pay $5k in maintenance and software licensing per year. This school has 300 students. They had a grant to pay for 75% of it but still.

Armed guards make about $30/hour.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:15 pm to
No I haven't seen any of the videos. And even if it is a somewhat robust door I'm sure there's a door somewhere in that school that isn't
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
4233 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:15 pm to
Research the term moral panic.
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