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Tasty but deadly, this new bait for feral hogs could help curb their rapid spread
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:06 am
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It tastes like fish oil, has the mouthfeel of rubber and looks like a ball of earwax, but wild pigs are literally dying to eat it.
Louisiana scientists have patented a tasty but deadly bait that could help curb the rapid spread of feral hogs, an invasive species that causes widespread damage to croplands and coastal wetlands.
The patent, which federal authorities say will be made official next week, is the culmination of eight years of work by Louisiana State University animal researchers and chemists.
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:17 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Obvious question: I assume it's formulated in some way that nothing else will eat it?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:26 am to Clyde Tipton
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I assume it's formulated in some way that nothing else will eat it?
No. That is the main problem. Their solution is remote activated baiting stations and cameras to confirm its pigs before activating the stations.
The other solution is burying the "bricks", but that won't stop bears from eating finding them.
They also don't kill the pigs, they just put them to sleep.
I don't see widespread usage for these, but maybe its a beginning to a solution.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Seems like it'd be easier to simply use my new invention.
I call it fentanylcorn.
I call it fentanylcorn.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:46 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Now make one for coons
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:19 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Is it deadly to eagles and buzzards?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:25 am to Salmon
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They also don't kill the pigs, they just put them to sleep.
So then what’s the point? They have to put it in a bait station, confirm it’s a hog, then put the hog to sleep? Then what? It’s not like you are going to relocate them.
So basically now you are just putting them to sleep so you can shoot them? It seems like it would just be easier to continue to trap a bunch of them at 1 time and shoot them when they are awake.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:43 am to Salmon
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They also don't kill the pigs, they just put them to sleep
Pretty sure they have said for years that it kills as if they are just going to sleep, meaning painless death. That's always the issue with baits painless death and doesn't go down the food chain.
It's an overdose of sodium nitrite I believe. Pigs are more sensitive than other wildlife.
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Pojman and Gentry have developed a patent-pending recipe that uses chemistry to kill off the hogs.
“The key ingredient is a chemical called sodium nitrite, which is actually used in preserving meats,” says Pojman. “When the pigs consume enough of it, it attaches to what is called the hemoglobin in their blood and prevents them from getting oxygen, so they simply go to sleep.”
Pojman says the bait would not be harmful to the environment.
“If the pig doesn’t get a lethal dose and they survive, and a hunter were to harvest it, they are not contaminated,” Pojman says. “Or when the pig dies - if there are scavengers; say vultures or other dogs or other animals or bears, they’re not going to be contaminated because it doesn’t leave any poison behind; which is a problem, let’s say with rat poison. When it gets in the environment, it stays and other animals can be contaminated.”
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 11:47 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:52 am to Piebald Panther
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“The key ingredient is a chemical called sodium nitrite,
Sweet. Hot dogs on the half shell...
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 11:53 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:21 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I’m having trouble opening the link.
But how is it on cattle?
But how is it on cattle?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:59 pm to The Torch
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Now make one for coons
the Government needs to create a market for their pelts....even if they actually just dispose of them, they need to offer $10 a coon and the problem will resolve itself....they are HORRIBLE for the turkey population.
Mississppi is on the right path with the hogs....trapping programs and cost sharing etc.
LSU is still working on a lethal bait...I've actually requested to be on the beta list.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:24 pm to Salmon
Wait what it just puts them to sleep? Also are the hogs still safe for human consumption after eating this?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:27 pm to Clyde Tipton
its sodium nitrite (pink curing salt) so it doesn't effect any other animal. delivery before it gets wet is key. once its wet it becomes sodium nitrate and is useless. This stuff flat works and fast.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:27 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
This is likely going to be the best way to control the wild hog population. I believe it is already being used in Australia. Shooting them gets a couple hogs while dozens run off, trapping is a more effective, but this has the most potential.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:29 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
this is great last i heard the Faggies were on the forefront of a Hog poison.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:31 pm to Salmon
quote:well it wont get approved for widespread use.
No.
quote:no the main problem is the poison filtering down after the pig, to birds and other scavengers.
That is the main problem. Their solution is remote activated baiting stations and cameras to confirm its pigs before activating the stations.
The other solution is burying the "bricks", but that won't stop bears from eating finding them.
They also don't kill the pigs, they just put them to sleep.
I don't see widespread usage for these, but maybe its a beginning to a solution.
I was really happen for this until you aid it does have the halflife needed.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:18 pm to One More Shot
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its sodium nitrite
So you also get a head start on making hams.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:28 pm to One More Shot
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its sodium nitrite (pink curing salt) so it doesn't effect any other animal.
Will I have to recalculate the amount of Cure #1 to use when making sausage?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:28 pm to BigBinBR
It makes them go to sleep permanently according to the article. After reading some of the responses I thought it makes them fall asleep temporarily. Doesn't appear to be the case.
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