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Judge Threatens To Remove Donald Trump From Witness Stand In New York Civil Fraud Trial

Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:33 am
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The judge in Donald Trump‘s civil fraud trial repeatedly expressed his frustrations during the former president’s first hour of testimony, to the point of threatening to remove him from the stand.

During one moment, according to CNN and other outlets, Judge Arthur Engoron told Trump’s attorneys to “control him if you can.”

“If you can’t I will. I will I excuse him and draw every negative inference that I can,” Engoron said.

Trump had been asked to answer a question about the valuation of one of his properties, but he gave a defiant answer.

Throughout his testimony, Trump has groused about the unfairness of the proceedings, while his attorneys have repeatedly noted that he is running for president, further trying to tar the trial as politically biased.

Engoron, however, told the Trump attorneys, “This is not a political rally.”


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This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 10:35 am
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:34 am to
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This is not a political rally

If only that were true.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68368 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:34 am to
Sounds like Trump is calling out judges and DA bullshite amd the Marxist is mad
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Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:34 am to
They are going to throw him in jail. They won’t face any consequences for it. That is the world we live in now.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96421 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:34 am to
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Engoron, however, told the Trump attorneys, “This is not a political rally.”


It’s a show trial and Trump is treating it as such.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69651 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:36 am to
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It’s a show trial and Trump is treating it as such.


Correct. But the consequences are real. Same will happen in Georgia.

Jenna Ellis looked like a woman at gun point (because she was) in her plea hearing.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:37 am to
I’m far from a legal scholar but this is his testimony to give. Blow it out your arse, judge. He’s doing his thing and you’ll accept it while it happens. Your opinion on his testimony shouldn’t impact his ability to give it.
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Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4206 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:37 am to
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They are going to throw him in jail. They won’t face any consequences for it. That is the world we live in now.


More than likely he'll be convicted of something, yes. I would say he's going to have a very hard time not being convicted of the classified documents charge.

And he won't do anything to help himself or his lawyers try to prevent it but instead will aggravate the situation as much as possible, which is the point of the OP.

And low IQs will cheer him for doing so.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:38 am to
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The New York attorney general’s office has called the former president to the witness stand.

“The people call Donald J. Trump,” a state lawyer said.

Trump, wearing a blue suit and tie, stood at the defense table and took his time walking to the witness stand. He raised his right hand and swore to tell the truth.

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Trump ticked off his political grievances on the witness stand in New York, while detailing how he left his business when his presidency began because he “thought it might be a conflict of interest.”

He appointed his son, Donald Trump Jr., whom he called “smart” and “a very honorable guy,” a trustee.

When he left the White House after losing the 2020 election, he appointed himself a trustee of the business, expecting to be “back in the business world for a little while.”

He complained that around the same time, “Democrat” prosecutors and state attorney generals — “all Trump haters,” he said — began to “come after” him.

“Weaponization, they call it,” Trump said.


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Trump attempted to play down the importance of his statements of financial condition when working with banks.

The documents are at the heart of the New York attorney general’s case against him and his business, which asserts that Trump and his co-defendants falsely inflated and deflated the value of the Trump Organization’s assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage.

Trump said the statements of financial condition were “not really documents that the banks paid much attention to.”

“I’ve been dealing with banks for 50 years and probably know banks as well as anybody,” Trump said. “I know what they look at; they look at the deal.”


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After Trump aired his frustration over “Democrat” prosecutors and attorneys general “coming after” him, Judge Arthur Engoron asked him to keep the political answers to a minimum.

“I’d like to move things along a little faster; please no speeches,” Engoron said, drawing an objection from Trump attorney Chris Kise.

A few questions later, Trump took aim at the judge. He claimed that the allegations against him are “well beyond the statute of limitations.”

“I’m sure the judge will rule against me because he always rules against me,” Trump said.

“You can attack me whenever you want but answer the questions,” Engoron later said in response.


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Engoron has repeatedly objected to Trump’s responses to the New York attorney general’s office’s questions, which have been winding and tinged with political speech.

“Mr. Kise, can you control your client? This is not a political rally,” Engoron said, suggesting Kise should “have a talk” with Trump.

Kise replied that Trump’s answers have been responsive because state lawyer Kevin Wallace’s questions have been “open,” purporting that it’s Engoron’s job to keep the court in order, not his.

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New York state lawyer Kevin Wallace asked Trump whether he ever recalled one of his statements of financial condition “being off.”

“Yes, both high and low,” Trump testified.

The former president said his Mar-a-Lago estate was underestimated but he “didn’t do anything about it,” asserting that it was worth 50 to 100 times more than the New York attorney general’s office estimated.

“I don’t know how you got those numbers,” Trump said.

Trump added that his “brand value” alone would have increased the value of his many properties, if he had used it to value them.

“I became president because of my brand,” Trump said.


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Trump’s responses to questions about his 40 Wall Street property drew ire from the judge.

“$550M is a very low number,” Trump said of the property. “All you have to do is look at a picture of the building and say that’s worth a lot more money. You wanna put up a picture?”

Engoron interjected again, telling Trump attorney Chris Kise to take control of his client.

“I would think, respectfully — of all witnesses — your honor would want to hear everything this witness has to say,” Kise said.

“No, I do not want to hear everything this witness has to say,” Engoron angrily replied.

Trump shook his head and smiled.

“I am not here and these people are not here to hear what he has to say; we are here to hear him answer questions,” Engoron continued. “It’s very simple. Is this an accurate number? It’s very simple.”

Trump then chimed in, unprompted.

“This is a very, very unfair trial. And I hope the public is watching,” Trump said.

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At state lawyer Kevin Wallace’s request, Judge Arthur Engoron called a 15-minute break so that Trump attorney Chris Kise could speak with the former president about streamlining his testimony.

The break follows several outbursts from Engoron, who has suggested Trump is treating his testimony like a “political rally” and not answering the questions he’s being asked.


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As the court took a 15-minute break, Trump walked out of the courtroom and made the motion of zipping his lips as he walked by a reporter who tried to ask him a question.

When walking back into the courtroom, flanked by his attorneys, Trump gave a thumbs up to those gathered in the courthouse hallway, opting to not stop for remarks as he had before the trial started Monday.

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This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12698 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:38 am to
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Engoron, however, told the Trump attorneys, “This is not a political rally.”


Thats friken rich. It’s political to the core.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4206 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:38 am to
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I’m far from a legal scholar


You don't say.

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I’m this is his testimony to give. Blow it out your arse, judge. He’s doing his thing and you’ll accept it while it happens. Your opinion on his testimony shouldn’t impact his ability to give it.


Yeah, that's not how it works. At all.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:39 am to
There aren’t any cameras so CNN can report on these proceedings any way they want.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96421 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:41 am to
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There aren’t any cameras so CNN can report on these proceedings any way they want.


Which means they will be pulling their stories from somewhere warm, wet, and fragrant.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14127 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:42 am to
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It’s a show trial and Trump is treating it as such.


Even the old Soviets would be laughing at this farce.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:43 am to
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Judge Threatens To Remove Donald Trump From Witness Stand In New York Civil Fraud Trial


He should just do it. No one believes this is legit anyway.

Its all a show, so he might as well give the people one.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:43 am to
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More than likely he'll be convicted of something, yes. I would say he's going to have a very hard time not being convicted of the classified documents charge. And he won't do anything to help himself or his lawyers try to prevent it but instead will aggravate the situation as much as possible, which is the point of the OP. And low IQs will cheer him for doing so.


Well the cucks have spoken.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105446 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:45 am to
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draw every negative inference that I can,” Engoron said.


I don't think that judge can draw up anymore negative inference than he already has. It would be redundant at this point.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:45 am to
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Sounds like Trump is calling out judges and DA bullshite amd the Marxist is mad

Or he is a bullshite artist and can't get away with that behavior in court?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53674 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:45 am to
You think he's going to be acquitted of every charge in every case?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:46 am to
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Well the cucks have spoken.


80 IQ response
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