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VP candidates could swing the election

Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:17 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43487 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:17 pm
Trump has a big decision to make and a lot of politicians may not even want to associate with him.

Biden should dump Harris but that would mean he made a mistake last time.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
72429 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:19 pm to
Ppl already know who they’re voting for.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18168 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:19 pm to
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VP candidates could swing the election

The election is Trump's to lose regardless of who he picks as a running mate. As long as he doesn't do anything stupid, he'll win in November and probably by a surprisingly comfortable margin.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19159 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:23 pm to
Sure, let me hinge my vote on the most worthless political office in the land.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
650 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:26 pm to
VP candidates won't matter unless Trump makes a monumentally bad decision. The Dems already made theirs.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27272 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:27 pm to
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lot of politicians may not even want to associate with him.


VP won't matter in this election... look at the last one, it didn't matter then, our current VP is a whore that cannot string two sentences together...
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5156 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:32 pm to
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but that would mean he made a mistake last time.


Since when has he made a correct move?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54056 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:33 pm to
This guy is a libertarian bro and I know this won't go over well here, but made the case for Tulsi.

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If there is one thing I know for certain about Trump it is that he’s a master of media. He knows exactly how and when to push everyone’s buttons.

For that reason (and many others) Trump’s only real choice for running mate is Tulsi Gabbard.

At a minimum, right now, Trump is using Gabbard, bringing her into the VP conversation. She’s okay with this. She’s allowing herself to be used by him. It’s mutually beneficial.

I’m well on the record as being a Gabbard fan (some would say simp… whatever). It doesn’t matter whether you trust her or not. It’s not about you. It’s about perception. And, for better or worse, Gabbard has a now long track record of service to the country that is honest.

She was someone targeted from the beginning as someone the DNC could groom into shape. Young, attractive, woman of color, veteran. Boxes are ticking off left and right. And those are all attributes that she still has which Trump doesn’t.

When Hillary stole the 2016 primary from Bernie Sanders she resigned from the DNC. This is a woman who crossed Hillary Clinton and, so far, has lived to tell the tale. No mean feat in the 21st century.

Long story short, Gabbard has stones. Some would call them principles, but that’s a stretch to ascribe those to any politician. She told Davos to go scratch. She told Hillary to slag-off.

And in 2024, she’s an ex-Democrat ,on Fox News, headlining at CPAC etc. Is she a stalking horse for the establishment? I don’t think so. Is she a grifter who just wants to trade up from the collection of dead-enders that are the current Democrats? Maybe.

Again, I don’t care about these things, because here’s the real story.

Trump needs to run as a real Unity candidate. He’s destroyed the GOPe’s (GOP establishment) gaggle of neocons. Now, he needs to seal the deal with the emerging Radical Center I discussed in a recent article.

That {being for something better rather than against what is} becomes a decision point for a lot of people. It’s the moment when the established idea, brand, etc. wakes up to the threat and fights back. This is what the 16% chasm represents, that gulf between opposition and affirmation.

This is also what Davos and their ilk are truly exceptional at managing. They keep the Overton Window framed over irrelevant side issues to ensure that a new majority doesn’t “cross the 16% chasm,” by uniting over that better solution that doesn’t include them.

I’m calling this group they are afraid of, “The Radical Center.”


And every time I bring Gabbard up in the VP conversation I hear a whole lot of side issues discussed without actually addressing the core goals of how to save the country from collapsing into conflict.

So, allow me to make one of my lists of reasons why Trump has only one real choice for VP:

- Former Democrat Congresswoman, veteran, former Trump critic.
- Loudly rejected the Democrats for becoming something unrecognizable
- Stood up to Hillary Clinton
- She destroyed Kamala Harris in a DNC debate
- Is fundamentally populist in most of her positions
- Is NOT dogmatic about key issues, having shifted off previous positions on guns, abortion, etc.
- Is not a warhawk, but rather supports Trump’s views on foreign policy
- She’s a negotiator and a moderate.
- She’s a patriot with a strong sense of honor and duty.
- Ran a pure grassroots campaign for President in 2020, no outside donor support.

If you look at the totality of Gabbard’s record you see someone who is the opposite of Trump, but who winds up in the same place he did.

Politically, she is someone who neuters all of the Democrats’ screeching about Trump hating women, being a Nahtsi, and dog whistling for the alt-Right.

If he picks Gabbard as his running mate he neuters all of those narratives with normies, softens Trump’s bombast, while leaving the media and Davos with nothing but “he’s pandering” as their fall back position.

That will backfire on them hard and they will take the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

And, like her or not, Gabbard is no Sarah Palin for them to pick apart. She’s seasoned at this level of the game.

Lastly, she is Globalist/Neocon Insurance as Trump is more compromised on this front than she is. And when you run through the Senate right now, who can you point to that doesn’t have huge stalking-horse-for-globalist vibes? Rubio? Scott? Rick or Tim?


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Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2561 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Ppl already know who they’re voting for.


100% correct. The VP needs to be a fighter and a message carrier, not a figure head or establishment "minder" like Pence.

The right VP could be the next POTUS after Trump.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34338 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:34 pm to
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VP won't matter in this election...

A VP Candidate always matters especially when delivering a State, like Youngkin could with Virginia, or a constituency like Pence did with the Religious Right.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
13098 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:35 pm to
And a lot of politicians may not want to be associated with him???

You mean all of the fricking fossil RINOS?

You know, the shite garbage politicians that have been in DC for 59 fricking years.. you mean those politicians?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20522 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:38 pm to
I'd vote for Trump if he had a cat's turd as VP, but I think his pick is more important than usual. He has only one term left. Whomever he chooses as VP could be considered the next torch bearer.

No one gives a shite who Biden picks.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18142 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Biden should dump Harris but that would mean he made a mistake last time.


Oh, he made a mistake, for sure. If Biden doesn’t end up being the candidate, and the DNC slides Newsome in there, the blacks and SJWs are going to be livid that Kamala was leapfrogged for a white man.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24827 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:53 pm to
People say this every election cycle, and I don't think it has ever proven to be true once. Nobody votes for the VP.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84394 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Nobody votes for the VP.


I know you voted for the cackling ho
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1656 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Sure, let me hinge my vote on the most worthless political office in the land.


It probably should carry a little more weight this go round. With the advanced age of both candidates, I'd give better than even odds that one of them passes before the end of the term.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:57 pm to
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Biden should dump Harris


No he shouldn’t. They are perfect for each other. Two people who always sound like they don’t know what the hell they’re talking about every time they speak.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32461 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Nobody votes for the VP.
Probably swung the election for Kennedy when he took Johnson out of Texas.
Posted by daydranking
nunya
Member since Sep 2019
457 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:18 pm to
watch him pick a moderate or a lame duck like pence again (not saying itll be pence again)
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
2312 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:26 pm to
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If Biden doesn’t end up being the candidate, and the DNC slides Newsome in there, the blacks and SJWs are going to be livid that Kamala was leapfrogged for a white man.


Bingo. Michelle Obama was the ONLY person who could potentially replace him as candidate, and I can’t imagine her running at this point. All signs point to her not wanting to go through what her husband went through at the expense of luxury, fame, and being basically untouchable. She’s got it made.

It’ll be either Kamala or Biden. Kamala is probably the only black woman on the planet that the glass ceiling crowd won’t rally for.
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