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re: Twittter user says baseball is hardest sport to play because elite athletes “struggle” ?

Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:39 am to
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:39 am to
Baseball may not be the most physically demanding sport in the world but what it takes to be good at it is absolutely insane.
Posted by dek81572
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:40 am to
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there is a reason all these QBs that were drafted, chose football, much more of a sure thing vs baseball.


John Elway, Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray would have probably never made the Show. It's much easier to make a pro football roster than it is to make it into the MLB. That's what makes what Bo and Deion did so remarkable.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:40 am to
Nothing in sports is more difficult than hitting major league pitching, IMO.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:50 am to
He's right. Think about it , if a great athelete had never played sports and showed up in 9th grade. They would find a spot for him on the football or basketball team, also track, soccer, etc. but would probably be too late to try to play baseball. Baseball takes way more skill development than other sports.
Posted by bayoujd
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:59 am to
There are lot of college and pro football players who didn't start playing football until they were in high school - and some of them very late in high school. But that can happen if you are really big or really fast without a ton of skill.

I bet there aren't any college and pro baseball players who started that late in baseball. If you show up in high school without ever having played baseball, you'll have no chance. Too much technique and fine motor skills to master.
Posted by ClusterCock
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:02 am to
There was a show on ESPN several years ago called Sports Science or something like that. Based on all their testing and research, they said the hardest skill in sports was hitting Major League pitching.

I agree with the posters on the skill vs athleticism. We all have a fat buddy that is a scratch golfer or great pool player or can beat the pants off you at ping pong just standing there flat-footed and not moving, all while smoking and drinking.

They are skilled but they aren't athletic in terms of running, jumping, etc.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:08 am to
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I mean it's a skill-based sport that has more in common with golf


This is retarded. You don't hit a moving ball in golf and you don't have a defense trying to stop you.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:09 am to
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I remember some people saying Kyler Murray was dumb for choosing football over baseball because they see major league salaries and less of a toll on the body. I don't think those guys realize how hard it is to make the show in the first place, and the way contracts work, you basically get your signing bonus and then make dirt until arbitration years down the line before ever finally getting that big contract, and it's a big "if" you even get there. Being a #1 overall pick at QB in the NFL is, like you said, much more of a sure thing financially.

He entered the league with a 4 year $35 million contract as the #1 overall NFL pick. Paul Skenes got a record signing bonus of $9.7M as #1 overall MLB pick but how long you think it'll take him to get the next $25M?


exactly. being high pick in nfl is a sure thing with less future earnings comapred to superstar in baseball. but baseball is hard AF to even make it there


deion answered this very clearly.....when asked which was harder by shannon sharpe....he said no doubt baseball.....said that ball does some crazy things and the reason why he loved is so much was because he could never master it and it frustrated him


in baseball, cant just rely on athletic ability. certainly helps but lots more goes into it. its the hardest sport to train for and hardest to play.

that is what makes it so great.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:11 am to
again, depends on your definition of 'hardest'
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:13 am to
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Twittter user says baseball is hardest sport to play because elite athletes “struggle” ?
He's not wrong. But its not because an NFL QB throws like he's never held a baseball before.

Most pro athletes in other sports probably wouldn't look too terrible in baseball out in the field. But 95% of them would be made to look silly taking batting practice against a good high school or JUCO pitcher.

But you could take a college or pro baseball player and odds are pretty good that he could join in some practice drills with a college teams in other sports and at least be halfway decent.

The hand eye coordination needed to hit 80+ mph pitches that have movement on them is unlike anything else in sports. Not easy for even the best of athletes to pick up on if they haven't been baseball players for a long time. What else in sports can you be considered one of the best players in the game and still only succeed less than 30% of the time?
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:21 am to
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I agree that baseball is the hardest sport to play. Anytime a professional athlete can fail 70% of the time and be considered to have had a great year, you know it's hard.


It's only that way because the of how the game is set up. The rules of the game are what make it difficult. People say hitting a baseball is hard because even major leaguers "fail 70% of the time". They don't fail to hit it 70% of the time, they fail to get "a hit", meaning they don't get on base. That's two different things. Some type of contact is made on the majority of at bats. If they changed the rules of football and said you could have 15 players on defense, then it suddenly becomes much more difficult.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:23 am to
Baseball has an insane skillset that isn't really transferrable. It's a skill-based game, with outlier skills at insane levels. Hockey is similar in terms of team sports.

Individual skill-based sports are harder though, IMHO, like tennis and golf.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:33 am to
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Most pro athletes in other sports probably wouldn't look too terrible in baseball out in the field. But 95% of them would be made to look silly taking batting practice against a good high school or JUCO pitcher.

But you could take a college or pro baseball player and odds are pretty good that he could join in some practice drills with a college teams in other sports and at least be halfway decent.


Well this "translation" argument ends up being similar to the NFL one.

Even within your example, 99% (maybe more) of MLB players could likely look better as an amateur on the basketball court, but would never, ever have the ability to play an NBA game. The NBA has, THEORETICALLY, more guys who could translate to the MLB.

There's a bit of projection in the discussion, but it's the same one at the end of the day.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:41 am to
Such a dumb argument, you think mlb isn't littered with guys who played football at a high level in high school?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:43 am to
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Put a baseball player on a bike, tell him to ride up a mountain in the Tour de France and see how much he struggles.



You think baseball players, who are regular people who were once children, would look similar riding a bike than CJ Stroud throwing a baseball?

wtf.....they can ride bikes lol.



I will always venture that the average white dude is a better all around athlete than most people.....Sure, he may not dominate any one sport, but give him any ball, he can throw it appropriately with out disappointing is father. Throw him a ball, he'll catch it. Give him a stick, he'll swing it properly. Running around in fields/neighborhoods playing a different sport every day trained em.

Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:47 am to
The hardest sport is hockey and it’s not even close due to the skating skills
Posted by Nathan Hail
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:54 am to
football and basketball are more friendly to people that are blessed genetically. could ask michael jordan what he thinks. baseball is easily the hardest of the big 3 sports.
Posted by bootyswamper
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:03 am to
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Anytime a professional athlete can fail 70% of the time and be considered to have had a great year, you know it's hard.


this

Tony Gwynn's stats are unbelievable.

In his entire 20-year career, Gwynn struck out 434 times -- an average of 21.7 K's per season.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7353 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:03 am to
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i'm imagining prime westbrook snatching homers as a center fielder then striking out on 3 pitches 4 times


So like BJ Upton.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21995 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:03 am to
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Even within your example, 99% (maybe more) of MLB players could likely look better as an amateur on the basketball court, but would never, ever have the ability to play an NBA game. The NBA has, THEORETICALLY, more guys who could translate to the MLB.

How so? I'm finding it unlikely that there's NBA guys who could play in MLB. Even most MLB draft picks never make it to MLB

If you took NBA and MLB players and put them in local adult rec leagues in the opposite sport, the MLB players would fare far better on average in an amateur basketball rec league than NBA players would do in amateur baseball leagues.
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