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re: Darius garland or Trae young
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:20 pm to saints5021
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:20 pm to saints5021
quote:The weird thing is, he's one of the worst screeners and roll dudes in the league.
Zion may be the best pick and roll big to ever play
Makes no sense as big and strong as he is that he won't set solid screens. Also makes no sense he's not a beast on the roll, but he's not.
He should be the best at it, and Trae would help that. But, as most things with Zion, he just has to buy in to it.
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:24 pm to shel311
It makes sense because he pretty much played on the perimeter his entire life. The Pelicans don't seem to coach these fundamentals since everyone on the team sucks at setting screens and it's been that way Green's entire tenure here.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:52 pm to Pels_Yaz
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3. Not a historically bad defender
Just as accurate as Slo here "Hitler didn't kill the most people".
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:36 pm to Jester
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We can only pray
If we could get Trae straight up for Ingram that deal would have been done already
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:15 pm to Soggymoss
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If we could get Trae straight up for Ingram that deal would have been done already
Y'all are funny
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:50 am to Jester
Trae is much better than Ingram.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:55 am to shel311
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The weird thing is, he's one of the worst screeners and roll dudes in the league.
well we rarely ever did it in 5 years, but i would agree for some reason he doesn't seem good at it.
I think that's where Trae helps tremendously with that in telling Zion what needs to be done, adn they work on it together in their free time.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:40 am to TeddyPadillac
Listening to BKM podcast, a good stat they brought up, Trae leads the league in potential assists at 18.2. 33% of his shots were assisted.
Kills the whole ball hog narrative a little more
Kills the whole ball hog narrative a little more
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 8:44 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:59 am to Soggymoss
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Trae leads the league in potential assists at 18.2
That's a good number but
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33% of his shots were assisted.
That seems pretty low as evidence of "killing the ball hog narrative"
I don't even think that matters in the way we think it does though. BI failed not because he didn't shoot enough 3s or play within the offense. He failed because a guy like Dillon Brooks could shut him down before he even passed the 3 point arc with the game on the line. Trae may also not run the coaches preferred offense when the game tightens up, but I would expect the Pels to get a shot off instead of stacking empty possessions in the 4th as the defense ramps up and the Pels watch their lead dwindle.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:30 am to TigerinATL
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Trae leads the league in potential assists at 18.2
Coaches and teammates have complained for years that he's an assist-chaser and often chooses the pass that is most likely to result in an assist versus the pass that keeps the offense moving. Frankly, Ingram has shown some of that at times, as well. However, there's way more smoke around it being a real issue for the team and coaches with Trae.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:43 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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chooses the pass that is most likely to result in an assist
Or, hear me out, he chooses the pass that gets his teammates the easiest shot and most likely to score a basket
He seems to be very deliberate in his passes and waiting for an opening to manifest. Thats what a point guard and your primary ball handler is supposed to do.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:45 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:46 am to Soggymoss
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Or, hear me out, he chooses the pass that gets his teammates the easiest shot and most likely to score a basket
He seems to be very deliberate in his passes and waiting for an opening to manifest. Thats what a point guard and your primary ball handler is supposed to do.
You can see what you want to see, but this has been a common talking point on Trae Young for at least 3 years.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:54 am to TigerinATL
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That seems pretty low as evidence of "killing the ball hog narrative"
Better than Brunson who nobody talks about as a ball hog.
Only 3% less than Halliburton who nobody labels a ball hog.
The commonality between those players is they are the primary ball handlers and runners off their teams offense, so their assisted shots will naturally be lower, but doesn’t mean they’re a hog.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:08 am to Soggymoss
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Klutch Sports will indeed meet with the Cavaliers this offseason to facilitate Darius Garland being traded, if Donovan Mitchell decides to stay,
@WindhorstESPN confirmed on @ESPNCleveland
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The Mitchell/Garland backcourt is on their way to being split up.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:08 am to Soggymoss
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Better than Brunson who nobody talks about as a ball hog.
Generally, people don’t call you out on that while you are winning.
Kobe is the main one I can think of who got that treatment.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:09 am to GOP_Tiger
At this point, we don't know that the Hawks are going to make Trae available, and they may prefer to trade Murray.
But now, we know that Garland is extremely likely to be available.
But now, we know that Garland is extremely likely to be available.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:13 am to GOP_Tiger
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At this point, we don't know that the Hawks are going to make Trae available
There are several reports that have said Hawks are going to try to trade Trae. Hes firmly on the trading block.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:18 am to Soggymoss
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Better than Brunson who nobody talks about as a ball hog.
Only 3% less than Halliburton who nobody labels a ball hog.
Both are in a different stratosphere than BI/Trae. That's why.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:23 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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that he's an assist-chaser and often chooses the pass that is most likely to result in an assist
He chooses the pass that
*checks notes*
Is most likely to accomplish the literal point of basketball?
What
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