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re: The First Amendment is being burned to the ground

Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:55 am to
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12773 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:55 am to
[quote]Should someone be able to say out loud that they hate Jews and think it would be a good idea to rid them from this world.[/quote

FYI- the bill that passed yesterday doesn’t criminalize or disallow this.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:56 am to
quote:

A private company like the university of Texas doesn’t have an obligation to tolerate your inflammatory rhetoric.


Wow
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
4951 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:56 am to
There is a fine line between free speech and just being a good member of society.
Some stuff just cannot happpen. These protests are stupid.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31520 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:56 am to
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I can't wait for the Israel Ball Gargling Boomers to pass away


Sounds as though you’d have thrived in 1930s/40s Germany.

(I haven’t read the bill ftr and vehemently oppose anything resembling hate-speech laws. Protecting hate speech is a foremost job of the 1A.)
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:56 am to
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Damn right.
To note, this is this poster's answer to me calling out how he's anti freedom.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72188 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:58 am to
quote:

A private company like the university of Texas


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68350 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:58 am to
Can you show us where it criminalizes speech? Honest request.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Let's be specific.

Should someone be able to say out loud that they hate Jews and think it would be a good idea to rid them from this world.

Yes. The First Amendment protects that speech.

Should someone be able to protest, block access, takeover and demand things from universities, threaten Jews, assault Jews?

No. Those people should be punished harshly.
Let's be more specific

The law, quite literally, states that it would be illegal to say Israel is committing genocide.

Agree with the statement or not, that's not relevant... We how have a law that states you can't criticize another government. Your freedom is being taken away. Some posters are applauding that loss of freedom.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16519 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:59 am to
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A private company like the university of Texas


Is this a troll?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:59 am to
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I fail to see a problem with the first amendment in all of this
a bill just passed by both parties will make it illegal to criticize the Israeli government.

This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12660 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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The right squawks this everytime Jan 6th is brought up. Remember, the "peaceful protest"?


What did YOU call it?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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Want to actually make a coherent retort instead of programmed drivel??

And bonus question… are you going to wear your hijab and pray to Allah right up until you pick up your pride flag for June?? Or are you going to take a week in between??
You hate freedom and America.

Sucks to be you.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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Where in the 1st amendment does it say you have the right to violently occupy?
It does say you have the right to free speech, no? Now a new bill will take that away from you.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:01 am to
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Breaking up illegal protests = buning the first amendment?
burning the first amendment = burning the first amendment
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50193 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:01 am to
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Are you referring to the students on college campuses occupying space and not allowing for normal activities on the campus?
it reminds me of another “occupation of space” that took place in January a few years ago…

But that was diffe(R)ent.
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
563 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:01 am to
quote:

A private company like the university of Texas ...


The university of Texas is not a company, and it is not private. It is a public university in the state of Texas supported with both state and federal tax dollars.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26641 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:02 am to
quote:

It does say you have the right to free speech, no?


So violently occupying is free speech now? Gotcha..

I guess all the people arrested on Jan 6th should be released now huh?
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31520 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:03 am to
quote:

The law, quite literally, states that it would be illegal to say Israel is committing genocide.


If this is true, then it’s prima facie invalid.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12660 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:04 am to
quote:

I can't wait for the Israel Ball Gargling Boomers to pass away


You have white women and beta leftist males, who call themselves everything but heterosexual, bowing to Allah now. I think you have the wrong group to be calling “ball gargling”.


Yes… we will be much better served by complete idiots who are openly exercising the rituals of Islam this month and will be waiving pride flags and actually ball gargling next month. That’s MUCH better
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
563 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:04 am to
quote:

These protests are stupid.


Your "stupid" protest may be a meaningful protest to someone else. That's how the First Amendment was drafted, to protect some of the most heinous speech you could imagine.

The cure to speech you find abhorrent is more speech ... not less.
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