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re: Trump is a lifelong limousine liberal who did nothing to shrink the federal government
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Trump is into Trump
He loves flattery and puffery. He can be played and has been
All over the world.
He loves flattery and puffery. He can be played and has been
All over the world.
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:58 pm to Nguyener
Hour 14 of tMelt
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:59 pm to David_DJS
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How do they compare to the powers of the executive to grow government?
Do you believe Obama and Biden had/have no power to grow government?
All executives need congress to grow or shrink government in any substantial manner. About the only why they can cut government are by the rules already set in place by congress that allow executive discretion. Obama or Biden may even try to grow government to only be checked by the courts and sometimes the courts let them go...see Dreamers. The executive thwarting congress is limited by how weak or strong congress is.
If you really want to shrink government focus more attention on congress. They have the power. The executive might satiate your wants for a period of time but you will only be frustrated. Our government is not set up to shrink especially by the executive. It's really up to the legislature.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:01 pm to the808bass
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We don’t have a lot of patience for that.
Our society as a whole is fat, lazy, unmotivated, fickle, short sited, and pathetic.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:02 pm to Pettifogger
One other thing to point out. This board is obviously dominated by Louisiana natives and Trump is immensely popular there. In addition to some of the issues that plague the rest of white middle class America, and much of the South for that matter, the state has about the lowest self esteem and most negativity you will ever seen in any given populace. They are ripe for the taking. The Big Man will fight on their behalf and solve all their problems.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:02 pm to GumboPot
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If you really want to shrink government focus more attention on congress. They have the power.
Until they run into a veto
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Our government is not set up to shrink especially by the executive. It's really up to the legislature.
It's both. Major legislation requires all 3 parties (House, Senate, and the Presidential admin) to negotiate an acceptable law. This isn't the 1820s, when Congress would literally draft a document of a proposed law and send it to the President, which he reviewed for the first time upon presentation.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:02 pm to Nguyener
Wow those tears were delicious
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:03 pm to Nguyener
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Our society as a whole is fat, lazy, unmotivated, fickle, short sited, and pathetic.
Hence the whole glorification of the people over the elites thing is stupid and will end up with the people rising up and the MAGA types going "oh no, not like that!"
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:03 pm to Nguyener
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Our society as a whole is fat, lazy, unmotivated, fickle, short sited, and pathetic.
Sometimes I hope for a good Carrington Event to cull the herd but that will leave us as sitting ducks from counties like China or Russia on the other side of the earth.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:03 pm to SDVTiger
Are you always an arse, or only behind a keyboard?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:04 pm to the808bass
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We don’t have a lot of patience for that.
Patience isn't really the issue there. We could play the long game just fine if the marxists weren't overtly working to destroy the country so that it can be remade in the socialist/communist mold.
We can frick around with a new party all we want, at this point. What we are going to find out is that we gave the marxists EXACTLY what they needed to finish the destruction of this country, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and our founding principles.
Either way, the result can only be violence, and Americans killing each other.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Until they run into a veto
They can pass veto proof legislation. They have done it before.
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It's both.
Yes, typically.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:05 pm to Lou Pai
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One other thing to point out. This board is obviously dominated by Louisiana natives and Trump is immensely popular there. In addition to some of the issues that plague the rest of white middle class America, and much of the South for that matter, the state has about the lowest self esteem and most negativity you will ever seen in any given populace. They are ripe for the taking. The Big Man will fight on their behalf and solve all their problems.
I mean, from the moment Obama said it everyone knew deep down he was right, at least to an extent.
An a-hole comment sure, but not without truth. Of course, guns and especially faith are far more valuable things to cling to than a septuagenarian billionaire, but it's the same concept. People with holes in their lives looking to fill them.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:06 pm to Bunk Moreland
Trump is going to frick with the FBI Bigly
By building them a beautiful new building.
By building them a beautiful new building.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:09 pm to Nguyener
I recall in his first week in office he signed an EO saying nobody can make a new regulation without eliminating two previous regulations. That's in the smaller government direction.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:09 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I've been thinking a lot lately about how Ron was the last real hope.
I volunteered for his campaigns in 2008 and 2012 and got spat on by Giuliani, Romney and Gingrich supporters. What's funny is now the Biden Democrats sound just like the Republicans did back then. That's why a lot of Paulites are now Trump folks. Our enemies back then are now Trump's enemies, regardless of actual policies.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:13 pm to GumboPot
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All executives need congress to grow or shrink government in any substantial manner.
I understand that. I think where we differ is in the the role a president plays in leading congress. Especially when his party controls the House or lacks control by a manageable margin. I expect a Republican president to lead congressional Republicans. I don't think you do.
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If you really want to shrink government focus more attention on congress. They have the power.
Yes, but the leader of the party plays a role here.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:13 pm to deeprig9
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I recall in his first week in office he signed an EO saying nobody can make a new regulation without eliminating two previous regulations. That's in the smaller government direction.
This is correct but this EO is only under the discretionary administrative laws passed by congress already in place. Discretionary laws for agencies and legal departments are permissive, and not binding.
Need congress to make substantial cuts in government.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:14 pm to Nguyener
Name the politicians that have shrunk the federal government in the last 30 years?
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