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re: Another Day....Another LSU scandal......

Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:09 pm to
Prior to this law Jindal had high paid unclassified state employees out of state on the books. I believe one may have even been related. The employees mentioned in the article should’ve definitely been terminated 30 days from their hire dates if they weren’t in compliance. As unclassified employees, LSU could’ve terminated or ended their appointments without any kind of disciplinary process. Those employees don’t have any kind of appeal rights either.

Long story short, this was a major mistake by LSU. Technically, they were breaking the law. One could easily argue that there are grounds for termination for the responsible party/parties
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 6:14 pm
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30308 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:10 pm to
Dick Lipsey may be 80, and not on the BOS any longer..

But, every day another story comes out that makes his movement just grow stronger..

The Clown Show..has gotta go!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:10 pm to
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So you take a job in Louisiana and then live in Chicago. Who is hiring these people? That is the people that need fired!


Damn man, join us in the 21st century.

My company has at least 3 employees who live and work in India. I know 3 of them we may have more. We do not have an office in India. At least 1 guy in Mississippi and no office, etc.

The main IT people are rarely in the office. They are keeping the systems operational and safe. They don't have time to do grunt work installing computers and crap or even have the time to explain every few minutes that they don't have time to grunt.

It is not uncommon for employees to live in different states from where they receive their paychecks.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89990 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Technically, they were breaking the law. One could easily argue that there is grounds for termination for the responsible party/parties



Certainly puts JBE in an uncomfortable position.

You have a President that he has openly supported, yet the same one that has seen the school break the law you introduced and cost the school a good amount of money.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89990 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Damn man, join us in the 21st century.

My company has at least 3 employees who live and work in India. I know 3 of them we may have more. We do not have an office in India. At least 1 guy in Mississippi and no office, etc.

The main IT people are rarely in the office. They are keeping the systems operational and safe. They don't have time to do grunt work installing computers and crap or even have the time to explain every few minutes that they don't have time to grunt.

It is not uncommon for employees to live in different states from where they receive their paychecks.


Christ, Ree...

Apples and fricking oranges here, man.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9606 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

My company has at least 3 employees who live and work in India. I know 3 of them we may have more. We do not have an office in India. At least 1 guy in Mississippi and no office, etc.

The main IT people are rarely in the office. They are keeping the systems operational and safe. They don't have time to do grunt work installing computers and crap or even have the time to explain every few minutes that they don't have time to grunt.

Does your Chief Technology Officer live in India?

We aren’t talking about the guys who remote-in to install software.

ETA: CTO, Assistant VP of IT, and two directors.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 6:18 pm
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54211 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:15 pm to
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We aren’t talking about the guys who remote-in to install software. ?
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
2921 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

My company has at least 3 employees who live and work in India. I know 3 of them we may have more. We do not have an office in India. At least 1 guy in Mississippi and no office, etc.

The main IT people are rarely in the office. They are keeping the systems operational and safe. They don't have time to do grunt work installing computers and crap or even have the time to explain every few minutes that they don't have time to


This is government, man.

I know you are the PR guy for LSU right now, and maybe you are an unclassified employee in secret, but private companies do what's best for the bottom line.

It's going be hilarious to see someone justify over $600k in salaries to people who would rather resign than become LA residents and had supposedly moved to BR.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23199 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:17 pm to
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So you take a job in Louisiana and then live in Chicago. Who is hiring these people? That is the people that need fired!


No doubt F King has to sign off on a position like CTO.

That person looks to have brought their friends with them to exploit this administrations incompetance.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

The employees mentioned in the article should’ve definitely been terminated 30 days from their hire dates


Not if their main residence was in Illinois. Just because you have an apartment or even a house in a state does not make it your permanent residence.

In Texas you have two weeks to get a TX drivers license and get your car registered. If you drive through a residential community or apartment complex around the Energy Corridor you will see a lot of Louisiana plates. You go back a year later it will be the same vehicles with the same plates. The company will either get them apartments/houses or supplement for living arrangements. But their permanent residence is considered to be Louisiana.
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

certainly puts JBE in an uncomfortable position. You have a President that he has openly supported, yet the same one that has seen the school break the law you introduced and cost the school a good amount of money.


At the least, someone should face disciplinary action within LSU. It’s a bad look for LSU’s president too. Therefore, he has to take action internally immediately. It could’ve been a mistake in the HR department, or even deeper than that. Regardless, it’s an inexcusable mistake, and someone has to be held accountable. By accountable, I mean fired.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 6:50 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9606 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:21 pm to
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Not if their main residence was in Illinois. Just because you have an apartment or even a house in a state does not make it your permanent residence.

You do realize that this is the entire point of the law in question? It exists to make sure highly paid state employees actually have primary residences in Louisiana.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89990 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

Not if their main residence was in Illinois. Just because you have an apartment or even a house in a state does not make it your permanent residence.

In Texas you have two weeks to get a TX drivers license and get your car registered. If you drive through a residential community or apartment complex around the Energy Corridor you will see a lot of Louisiana plates. You go back a year later it will be the same vehicles with the same plates. The company will either get them apartments/houses or supplement for living arrangements. But their permanent residence is considered to be Louisiana.


lol...

Are you really this lost?
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4471 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:22 pm to
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Terrible law and it should be repealed. How many Professors/Researchers fit into this same situation that will now depart at the end of the year.


Professors & researchers aren't considered "Unclassified" per the LSU website. The law JBE helped pass does not apply to them.

LSU HR Classification of Employees
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47154 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

My company has at least 3 employees who live and work in India. I know 3 of them we may have more. We do not have an office in India. At least 1 guy in Mississippi and no office, etc.


Your company isn’t a state run entity who uses tax payer funds to pay salaries.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
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You do realize that this is the entire point of the law in question? It exists to make sure highly paid state employees actually have primary residences in Louisiana


Well that is a stupid fricking law then and explains why they said they would have never taken the jobs.

There are some CEOs of companies that have private jets provided. That is to fly them to work and back home. Because they do not live in the states where they work.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:27 pm to
What a joke !
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9606 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

lol...

Are you really this lost?



His arguments so far have been that:
A) The Chief Technology Officer should not be able to work remotely, as demonstrated by the fact that his company has IT guys living in India.
B) The employees in-question didn’t need to get LA drivers licenses because their primary residences are in Illinois.

So yeah I’d say the entire point has gone over his head.
Posted by Friar Tuck
Planet Earth
Member since Nov 2016
684 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:30 pm to
The four in question probably wanted to keep taking advantage of the Illinois reasonable auto insurance rather than pay our high rates. Downstate Illinois, where at least two of them lived and worked before taking jobs at LSU, has auto insurance rates less than half the rates charged here.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9606 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:31 pm to
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There are some CEOs of companies that have private jets provided. That is to fly them to work and back home. Because they do not live in the states where they work.

Name one of these “remote” CEO’s who commute on a company jet. Publicly traded companies only, please. It doesn’t count if they own the business.

P.S., even if you could, it would be an apples-to-oranges comparison for several reasons:
1. These are government employees.
2. We are talking about the Chief Technology Officer, who would report to the CEO and would be expected to live in the same state as their office location 99.9% of the time.

Also note that many large companies have C-suite offices separate from their main operational headquarters. Also not the same thing.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 6:37 pm
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