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re: Another Day....Another LSU scandal......

Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:31 pm to
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Not if their main residence was in Illinois. Just because you have an apartment or even a house in a state does not make it your permanent residence. In Texas you have two weeks to get a TX drivers license and get your car registered. If you drive through a residential community or apartment complex around the Energy Corridor you will see a lot of Louisiana plates. You go back a year later it will be the same vehicles with the same plates. The company will either get them apartments/houses or supplement for living arrangements. But their permanent residence is considered to be Louisiana.


With all due respect that’s not correct. They should’ve still been terminated. I understand that these employees would’ve violated Illinois law by obtaining a drivers license in Louisiana. However, LSU is required to follow Louisiana Law and should not be concerned with any conflicts with other states. Bottom line: the law here for these state unclassified positions with those salaries clearly states they must to obtain a Louisiana D.L. and register their vechicle. It may be a terrible contradiction to laws in other states, but they can’t just ignore the law here. From the beginning, if they were not willing to fulfill the requirements then they should’ve only been paid up to $100,000 annually, as this law only applies to unclassified state employees who make more than that.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:34 pm to
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"When asked if they would be willing to register their vehicles in the state of Louisiana or obtain a Louisiana driver's license each employee stated they would not be willing to do so," the audit says. Auditors also said the four officials said it was only during questioning that they learned about the state law and if they had known in advance they would never have taken jobs with LSU.


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what the frick...


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So you take a job in Louisiana and then live in Chicago. Who is hiring these people? That is the people that need fired!


This is going to sound crazy but it sounds more and more like LSU has been infiltrated by plants. The way FKing and Alleva has been running things and now this?

Could all of these people be political favors from and for Democrats?
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89989 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Well that is a stupid fricking law then and explains why they said they would have never taken the jobs.

There are some CEOs of companies that have private jets provided. That is to fly them to work and back home. Because they do not live in the states where they work.



Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14427 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:41 pm to
Who in the athletic department lives in India?
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:49 pm to
See below excerpt.

“Any person hired or employed in an unclassified position who does not meet the requirements of this Section, or who no longer meets the requirements of this Section, shall be removed and terminated within thirty days of the public employer learning such person does not meet the requirements of this Section”

There’s no excuse for LSU’s delayed action or lack thereof. “Apparently,” LSU only found out due to an internal audit that was released on 02/06/19. So from the time they ‘learned’ of the issue the employees should’ve been terminated no later than 03/08/19. The news today of their resignation comes 14 days after that deadline. If the effective date of their resignations isn’t 02/08/19 then you also easily argue that LSU willfully violated state law and policy.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:57 pm to
This entire story...



And just another example of how LSU is being led by the most incompetent group of administrators in the country.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3843 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:00 pm to
Dir of IT only makes 144K. Not that they do anything. It's always the senior engineers that end up doing actual magic.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:03 pm to
The technology department is one of the most corrupt at LSU, and that's saying a lot
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:07 pm to
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I can only hope that you're trolling at this point.


About what? What a CTO is and how their jobs were originally established? That it is a CTO that is in question in this thread? What am I trolling about?

Maybe the links I provided are trolling you but I am not.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:09 pm to
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RummelTiger

Run his arse Rummy.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89989 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:11 pm to
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Maybe the links I provided are trolling you but I am not.



I respect how much YOU believe in your opinion, but it's truly sad how out of touch you are most of the time.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:12 pm to
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Did you read the State LAW? Requirements of the position? Just shut the frick up.


Did you read where I said it is a stupid law? Especially for technology people.

I have no idea what these people's qualifications are but if the best employee you can find lives in Alaska and wants to stay there and can do their job from Alaska with occasional travel to the office you hire them. If you don't you are NOT trying to help your organization be the best it can be.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:14 pm to
What's amazing is that we paid someone $268k/yr to be a chief technology officer in an LSU IT Dept and she still refused to move here even though it was a big pay increase from her previous job - then no executives at LSU thought it was odd.

Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:17 pm to
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Did you read where I said it is a stupid law?

You’re feelings are irrevelant, snowflake. Law is Law and it’s also a condition of employment.
Using rantard logic, eh?
Not only are you a douche, you’re a hypocritical douche.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 7:18 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5107 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:17 pm to
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LSU spokesman Ernie Ballard said in a statement Friday. "As it is a personnel matter, we don’t have any further updates at this time.”


Someone needs to send Alleva this.
Posted by TabledTiger
Venice
Member since Apr 2013
2254 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Someone needs to send Alleva this.




This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 7:27 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Tiger Ree


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Did you read where I said it is a stupid law? Especially for technology people.


Your personal opinion does not absolve these former employees or their employer from their requirements under the law. You may think or say whatever you like. You obviously do.

But you can’t just decide to compel, comply with or enforce laws capriciously based on your personal opinion.

Which means your opinion means nothing here. LSU made a huge mistake with respect to their policy and process. By not accounting for the law’s potential impact, LSU has made a huge mistake, broken the law and then didn’t comply with the law’s wording and intention regarding timelines for corrective action upon notification of non compliance with the law.

Your first responsibility in an organization is to operate with integrity while being the best you can be. Part of the former is abiding by applicable laws and statutes to ensure an environment and culture of legal compliance. With LSU still dependent upon legislative appropriations, it’s foolish to act in this manner purposefully. Setting an example that you will ignore the will of the lawmaking organ of our state that also controls your funding amounts and allocations isn’t a recipe to be the best. It’s playing with fire and hoping you get burned.

Leaving the rest of your hyperbole aside, this was a mistake. LSU is accountable and responsible for it.

If they did not like the law, legislative remedies have been available to them for over a half decade without LSU availing themselves of said remedies.

You are in this thread speaking about anecdotal experience that fuels your opinion and emotional “feelings,” regarding this discussion. As such you are completely out of step since the law is completely clear.

Comply, or change the law. Don’t ignore and play fast and loose with Louisiana law and the lawmakers who create them and fund you.

Period
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:30 pm to
Send him a private message like you do to me weekly
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30389 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:33 pm to
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So you take a job in Louisiana and then live in Chicago. Who is hiring these people? That is the people that need fired!




Sounds like a few were IT people. Perfectly reasonable to be remote.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89989 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Send him a private message like you do to me weekly



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