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re: Fehoko to NT..
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:27 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:27 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Man Earl you can’t argue with a dude who thinks our DL depth is worse than last year....
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 9:28 pm
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:29 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Hell, if O gets called out for saying we were going to the CFP last year y’all scream WHAT IS HE SUPPOSED TO SAY???
Lol you’re becoming the Tiger Ree of O haters when you say shite like this & the way you responded to the O rotary cliff notes. Unhinged
quote:
Well, what is Aranda supposed to say leading up to week 1?
Haven’t heard him say that in years past.
Yap guess he’s just making that up. He could have described that group in many different ways other than the way he did
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:30 pm to L S Usetheforce
Honestly, how can anyone say we have so much more depth than last year? We are bringing in freshman that are not expected to play right away, so the only way we have more depth is if Farrell and Thomas break out and it’s not like we’ve been hearing about either one of them stepping up so far
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:34 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:Im very happy we had those guys but all of them were backup linemen at best. They were not up to LSU’s normal standards of D linemen.
All three of those dudes were major contributors to this program for years.
quote:All the guys starting or in the two deep we’re on the team last year. Not sure who you are referring to as having not taken college courses yet.
And these dudes are shitting on three DL for not getting drafted saying they weren’t great yet touting a bunch of dudes that aren’t even in college classes yet as automatic upgrades??
quote:Well prepare yourself to be impressed bc there is no doubt we will be better depth wise and talent wise this year. I have heard the players, Orgeron, Aranda, and former coach Pete Jenkins all say this.
If the DL is significantly better this year I will be thoroughly impressed.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:36 pm to bugafor6
Honestly we played 4 scholarship dl in two football games last year...that’s why.
By shear #s we have more depth.
By shear #s we have more depth.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:37 pm to bugafor6
Be careful dude if you don’t just assume true freshmen will outplay three fifth year seniors (they weren’t even drafted!!), then you obviously want LSU to fail 
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:38 pm to Tiger Voodoo
See I have to end the argument if you think Shelvin is a true freshman.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:39 pm to bugafor6
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Honestly, how can anyone say we have so much more depth than last year?
I think we have 11-12 scholarship DL’s compared to 8 last year.
That math is pretty easy to do
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:43 pm to StatMaster
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Im very happy we had those guys but all of them were backup linemen at best. They were not up to LSU’s normal standards of D linemen.
Agreed not up to the greats we’ve seen in the past but those dudes were easily up to LSU lineman standards.
Not every guy we’ve had is a Lavalais or Dorsey.
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All the guys starting or in the two deep we’re on the team last year. Not sure who you are referring to as having not taken college courses yet.
Exactly, they were on the team last year so they don’t improve our depth this year.
We lost three seniors (four counting Clark) and are replacing them with Fehoko, Shelvin (unproven) and four true freshmen.
How are we better depth wise other than sheer numbers (assuming all the freshmen dress which is unlikely).
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Well prepare yourself to be impressed bc there is no doubt we will be better depth wise and talent wise this year. I have heard the players, Orgeron, Aranda, and former coach Pete Jenkins all say this.
Would absolutely love it but coaches saying it doesn’t make it so. Hope we see it on 9/2
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:46 pm to L S Usetheforce
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See I have to end the argument if you think Shelvin is a true freshman.
I’m well aware of Shelvin not making grades last year.
I’m also skeptical of his contribution this year based on his ability to stay in shape and on the field. I already addressed that in an earlier post regarding why Fehoko is moving inside instead of bumping up Shelvin to start at nose.
Certainly hope I’m wrong, the kid could be a difference maker if he can give us more than a handful of plays each half.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:55 pm to Tiger Voodoo
NT
No. 91 Breiden Fehoko 6-3, 298, JR
No. 72 Tyler Shelvin 6-3, 354, RSFR
No. 95 Ed Alexander 6-2, 339, JR
? No. 52 Chasen Hines 6-3, 347, FR
No. 98 Dominic Livingston 6-3, 350, FR
RDE
No. 90 Rashard Lawrence 6-3, 300, JR
No. 93 Justin Thomas 6-5, 277, SO
or No. 54 Davin Cotton 6-1, 262, FR
LDE
No. 96 Glen Logan 6-4, 315, SO
No. 92 Neil Farrell, Jr. 6-4, 287, SO
No. 51 Dare Rosenthal 6-8, 335, FR
No. 47 Nelson Jenkins III 6-4, 297, FR
I don’t see any true freshman in the two deep. I see sophomores and rsfr as backups and true freshmen as third and fourth string. So your point is that the depth with true freshman last year is the same as having them as sophomores this year?? That is a very weak argument. And we have Lawrence healthy and Fehoko who didn’t play last year and you still consider our line weaker?? He’ll if Lawrence, Fehoko, and Logan only play at the same level as last year’s line, we’ll be better bc our sophomore backups will be better than they were as freshman.
No. 91 Breiden Fehoko 6-3, 298, JR
No. 72 Tyler Shelvin 6-3, 354, RSFR
No. 95 Ed Alexander 6-2, 339, JR
? No. 52 Chasen Hines 6-3, 347, FR
No. 98 Dominic Livingston 6-3, 350, FR
RDE
No. 90 Rashard Lawrence 6-3, 300, JR
No. 93 Justin Thomas 6-5, 277, SO
or No. 54 Davin Cotton 6-1, 262, FR
LDE
No. 96 Glen Logan 6-4, 315, SO
No. 92 Neil Farrell, Jr. 6-4, 287, SO
No. 51 Dare Rosenthal 6-8, 335, FR
No. 47 Nelson Jenkins III 6-4, 297, FR
I don’t see any true freshman in the two deep. I see sophomores and rsfr as backups and true freshmen as third and fourth string. So your point is that the depth with true freshman last year is the same as having them as sophomores this year?? That is a very weak argument. And we have Lawrence healthy and Fehoko who didn’t play last year and you still consider our line weaker?? He’ll if Lawrence, Fehoko, and Logan only play at the same level as last year’s line, we’ll be better bc our sophomore backups will be better than they were as freshman.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:59 pm to Lester Earl
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think we have 11-12 scholarship DL’s compared to 8 last year.
We had 9 eligible last year (Fehoko and Shelvin were not), including two true freshmen.
We have 12 this year (assuming Shelvin stays eligible) although Alexander is hurt so let’s say 11 for now, including four true freshmen.
Take away the true fresh last year and we are at 7 with game experience both seasons.
See how it works when you actually break things down?
It isn’t outrageous to question whether the DL is really in that much better of a position.
I do like the starters a lot, although I disagree that our starters last year were so far below our “standards”, and we have more freshmen bodies to throw on the field if injuries strike (assuming they are dressed, which they weren’t in September last year).
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:07 pm to bugafor6
Rosenthal will play, he's the only Frosh DL O speaks about
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:08 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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See how it works when you actually break things down?
Let’s break down some more
Of the 9 from last year
Frank Herron missed the first 7 games
Deondre Clark played in only 3 games & didn’t even dress out most games
Lawrence played hurt all year
Your “breakdown” sucks.
12>8.
To actually be able to put a scholarship player in for a few plays, esp one recruited for this scheme, is a big deal
When injuries take their toll which they are bound to do, we won’t be short handed like we were in games we ended up losing last year
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:08 pm to minvielle
O said last year they had 6 health oline on scholarship so they took it easy. Said this year they are 3 deep and better be ready to cuz it’s gonna be very physical. As far as shorter practices.. I think the last two years with how today they finished and even with losses and bad offense played Bama very tough it shows that it worked. Miles always struggled after Bama week and O’s teams looked so much better
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:09 pm to StatMaster
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don’t see any true freshman in the two deep
We didn’t have freshman in the two deep preseason last year either.
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And we have Lawrence healthy and Fehoko who didn’t play last year and you still consider our line weaker??
And now Alexander is hurt this year, causing Fehoko to move from end to nose.
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He’ll if Lawrence, Fehoko, and Logan only play at the same level as last year’s line, we’ll be better bc our sophomore backups will be better than they were as freshman.
I don’t disagree that the starters look great.
But I’m not discounting that our starting line of Rashard, Gilmore, and Lac was not too shabby either when our backups on the two deep were Alexander, Logan, and Herron when he was reinstated.
Just assuming guys like Farrel and Thomas will be as good coming in as relief as those guys were last year isn’t something i see as a guarantee. And until Shelvin proves he can contribute more than a few plays at his weight
I’m not counting on him for much.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:13 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:We didn’t have backups in some games last year!! That’s the point! We had no one behind our starters in the MISS st game and Troy. How can you say our depth will not be better this year?!
Just assuming guys like Farrel and Thomas will be as good coming in as relief as those guys were last year isn’t something i see as a guarantee.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:14 pm to StatMaster
No excuses this year. 10-2 plus NY6 bowl or better.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:19 pm to Lester Earl
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12>8.
11>8, Alexander is already out apparently.
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To actually be able to put a scholarship player in for a few plays, esp one recruited for this scheme, is a big deal
Don’t disagree, but having three fifth year seniors that all contributed and started games for years is also a pretty big deal that you seem far too willing to shrug off.
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When injuries take their toll which they are bound to do, we won’t be short handed like we were in games we ended up losing last year
Assuming the depth guys are dressed out when those injuries happen. Thomas wasn’t last year and I doubt all the freshmen will be every game this year either so the number goes down even more.
I’m not knocking the DL. I’m just also not knocking last years group and like I said will be very impressed if this unit is as dominant as you are all convinced it will be.
I see the starting DL as very good, not as good as it would have been with Alexander healthy, and the LBs as a major strength. Aranda will have fun with the front seven for sure.
But depth at DL I don’t see as a huge upgrade for this year. Again, hope I’m wrong and will gladly eat my crow if so
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:22 pm to Lester Earl
We have more bodies, we don’t have more quality players. If any starter gets hurt we are fricked just like last year
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