re: Fehoko to NT..

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It's a matter of lost cartilage, nothing surgery can do about it, the shots just help out. Even if he balls out this year, it's unlikely an NFL team would draft him highly with that kind of knee problem.

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Ouch...that sucks. Probably from all that weight wearing on that knee. He will probably need micro fracture surgery in the off season. That is one of the only ways to put cartilage back. Mircro fracture surgery takes about a year to recover from though.

If I were him, I would sit out this year and do the surgery and come back next season.

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How many will travel this year? List them please.

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Impossible to say at this point, we still have all fall practice to go through.

Assuming everyone is healthy and able to play though:
Fehoko, Alexander, Lawrence, Logan, Shelvin, Farrell are all 100% sure bets.

Dare Rosenthal will travel I would assume.

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Your roster limit size for road games is smaller than allowed for home games. You can only travel 70 guys IIRC for a road game, where you can dress like 80-85 for home games.

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Just looked this up to make sure:
Home team dresses 95 players, only 80 can play
Away team allowed to dress 70 players

Just search SEC football travel roster limit on google and there's a pdf named "Figure 17-1 - KSBA Portal" that shows all the roster limits by sport for home/away.

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Dare Rosenthal will travel I would assume.

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I would HOPE, not assume.

And he’s a NT anyway. Depth isn’t an issue there.


And we’re putting a lot of blind faith in O that he found this diamond in the rough that wasn’t ranked top 300 or top 25 at his position to just assume he’s going to be ready to step in and contribute in September.

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How many will travel this year? List them please.


Impossible to say at this point, we still have all fall practice to go through.

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dont know what Freshmen will emerge to guess.

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This is the whole point. Everyone keeps saying BODIES and depth is OBVIOUSLY better but you can’t even tell me which players will dress because you are counting true freshmen that weren’t even highly ranked.


But you’ll dismiss Gilmore Lac Herron and Clark because they weren’t drafted

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That’s my whole point. We really aren’t in a much different position.

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We're certainly in a much different position, last year we had a total of 9 scholarship defensive linemen (able to play), Herron was suspended the first 6 games of the season, so we only had 8 then with him out. Lawrence missed 3 of those first 6 games games as well during that time, so only 7 available in 3 of first 6 games. Thomas they shut down after game 2 as well, kept him on practice squad I believe.

This year we have 12 scholarship defensive linemen to start out.

2017
NT Gilmore
NT Alexander
DE LaCouture
DE Lawrence
DE Logan
DE Farrell
DE Thomas
DE Herron
DE Clark

2018
NT Alexander
NT Shelvin
NT Hines
NT Livingston
DE Lawrence
DE Fehoko
DE Logan
DE Farrell
DE Thomas
DE Cotton
DE Rosenthal
DE Jenkins

Much much deeper pool of guys

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This is the whole point. Everyone keeps saying BODIES and depth is OBVIOUSLY better but you can’t even tell me which players will dress because you are counting true freshmen that weren’t even highly ranked.

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You hope it never comes to having to play these guys significantly, but the difference from last year to this year is at least you have someone on hand to throw in there in an emergency.

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But you’ll dismiss Gilmore Lac Herron and Clark because they weren’t drafted

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I dismissed them as being top end talent guys. Ive said numerous times that they played well, especially within the defense. I never said they sucked or that this was even a weak spot. I think we have more dynamic players this year. And we for sure have more depth.

Hines is an OL now.

It’s 2 deeper and 4 are True freshmen

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Nobody injured, ineligible or suspended right now either.

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First off, Ed is hurt. That’s what started this whole thread.

But again, that’s the point.

We seemed to have depth last year too until injuries/ejections made it no so anymore.


It’s fine to say look at all this depth right now but if Rashard were to get nicked again, another on the two deep go down or get ejected, we’d be right back where we were last year because I guarantee you all those freshmen won’t be dressed at Auburn and we’ll be playing with 5 guys like we were against State.



And let me be clear, I’m not saying the DL won’t be very good. But I also thought the DL was good last year. Those that knock our seniors and blame the DL for MSU/Troy are the ones that don’t apparently.


Missing two or three guys wasn’t a 30 point difference against State. It was a shitty game plan by Aranda and O didn’t have the team prepared and our offense was dogshit that couldn’t get a first down to stay on the field all goddamn night. A couple of extra true freshmen wouldn’t have changed that.

I don’t think we’ll have that kind of meltdown again though.


And as for Troy, I don’t give a frick if we had two DL all night (we had five), that is still no excuse for getting pushed around all night. We are at home (homecoming ), throw some fricking walk on special teams guys in there to put their hands in the dirt and stop the bleeding if you need to. Ryan O Neal wouldn’t have been embarrassed like that

That’s on coaching/prep and shitty offense once again, not depth.

Talk about our DL senior guys not getting drafted so they’re “nothing special”?? Not a single fricking player from Troy was drafted or will be.

Our walk ons should have been able to stop those dudes.


Depth didn’t cost us either game, hopefully it won’t this year either.