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re: Thoughts on the Falcons acquiring Asante Samuel?
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:18 pm to Sanchito
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:18 pm to Sanchito
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If he can stay healthy, he can really be a force,
And there it is. In college he played hurt all the time. But comparing CFB/NFL is like apples and oranges I know, we'll see if he can hold up.
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I would have to say that I would rank Atlanta's trade for Julio above the NO's trade for Ingram last year.
No. ATL gave up more.
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 8:25 pm
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:19 pm to Sanchito
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Douglas v. Moore is a push as well.
you got it buddy
how bout sproles vs rodgers or Jimmy Graham vs grandpa
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:23 pm to Sanchito
NOs has one of the best WR Groups in the league IMO. Brees has a lot to do with that but Colston, Moore, Henderson, Graham, and not to mention Sproles and Thomas as receiving threats.
Yes a lot of that has to do with Brees but they are all still very good in their own right.
I'll also say Julio will be very good, if you don't think so you're in denial.
As yes, Smith is probably the best single receiver in the South right now.
Eta although well have to see what Vincent Jackson does in Tampa, Bc he's pretty damn good
Yes a lot of that has to do with Brees but they are all still very good in their own right.
I'll also say Julio will be very good, if you don't think so you're in denial.
As yes, Smith is probably the best single receiver in the South right now.
Eta although well have to see what Vincent Jackson does in Tampa, Bc he's pretty damn good
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:26 pm to St Augustine
quote:I think you might have missed where we were talking about WRs.
how bout sproles vs rodgers or Jimmy Graham vs grandpa
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:26 pm to Sanchito
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You can find plenty serviceable linemen in the middle rounds
True, but have they have a history of it hitting on those?
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With the change in the game, running back isn't as much of a necessity as it once was,
This is true, but their current o-line is more geared towards run blocking, and are sub par at pass blocking.
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one of the reason I put the Julio trade over the Ingram one.
Julio is certainly a better player, but that's not to say Julio was the better trade. More crucial position, but a much steeper price.
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They have some talent at TE that they could find in the middle rounds, such as Green, Hanna, Egnew.
True, but conjecture at this point.
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None of these guys will be Gonzo but they can produce.
True, but Ryan loves his tight end just like any other QB does. If you're a falcons fan, you hope you can bring in a guy and pray for a Jimmy Graham -esque development, because Gonzo is gonna leave a big gaping hole when he retires.
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I think they are in a much better position than many on this board seem to think.
They're loaded with talented players, but really their big problem is the o-line and the fact that they're installing a brand new offense and defense.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:27 pm to josh336
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Good move for Atl, they've had a good offseason defensively
Unless I'm missing something, they've only signed Samuel and Tatupu, who didn't even play last year. That goes with the loss of Lofton. Retaining Abraham would be like our retaining Smith (no biggie either way). Overall, I'd say that puts them maybe SLIGHTLY ahead.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:32 pm to Sanchito
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I think you might have missed where we were talking about WRs.
You may have been talking about WR's, but Graham and Sproles were #1 and #2 in receptions last season.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:34 pm to Sanchito
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I think you might have missed where we were talking about WRs.
White has really been declining. I'd take Colston over him, but White certainly could explode again. Colston is certainly the safer pick, IMO.
JJ is going to be quite a bit better than Devery, no doubt.
Moore >>>> Douglas. Sorry, but Moore showed he can actually be "the guy" if needed in 2008 (930 yards, 10TDs). Douglas is more of a big play threat, but Moore does the dirty work, which is what you want from a slot guy. I know Douglas is only in his 4th year, but Moore has 400 yards on Douglas over the past 3 years despite playing in 11 fewer games.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:42 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:Let me first start off saying I am not a Falcons fan. But I am having a hard time following this. Last year their passing offense ranked higher than their run game. It did this as well in 2009. In 2010, the run game was higher but barely by a few spots. I think it was run 14, pass 15 or something like that. They are also in the top ten each of those years for least sacks allowed.
This is true, but their current o-line is more geared towards run blocking, and are sub par at pass blocking.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:43 pm to Sanchito
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Last year their passing offense ranked higher than their run game. It did this as well in 2009
That's because Turner is getting old, fat as frick, and his knees are demolished from Atlanta running him into the ground.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:45 pm to Sanchito
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Let me first start off saying I am not a Falcons fan.
One does not simply say they're not a Falcons fan.
But ask the actual Falcons fans on this board. Double Down will tell you.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:47 pm to THRILLHO
quote:Is this due to Moore? Or does this have more to due with Brees being able to get through his progressions?
Moore >>>> Douglas. Sorry, but Moore showed he can actually be "the guy" if needed in 2008 (930 yards, 10TDs). Douglas is more of a big play threat, but Moore does the dirty work, which is what you want from a slot guy. I know Douglas is only in his 4th year, but Moore has 400 yards on Douglas over the past 3 years despite playing in 11 fewer games.
quote:I can't argue that but I was talking about wide receivers. I think we can all agree you cannot argue RBs and TEs here.
Graham and Sproles were #1 and #2 in receptions last season
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:48 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:New England
One does not simply say they're not a Falcons fan.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:49 pm to THRILLHO
You are orgetting they got a good DC
Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:00 pm to josh336
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Moore >>>> Douglas
Freakin this!
Moore is by far a better route runner
Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:00 pm to Sanchito
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Is this due to Moore? Or does this have more to due with Brees being able to get through his progressions?
Moore was lining up at either the 1 or 2
Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:05 pm to St Augustine
Sorry man, but I don't see it. It is the elite QB effect. Taking average players and making them look above average. Look at the Colts last year or Brady doing something with his midgets and senior citizens. I would like to include Rodgers but I think he has the most weapons in the game. I think if we switched Douglas and Moore we would be saying the same thing.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:08 pm to Sanchito
Moore runs routes very well, has excellent leaping ability and some of the best hands on the team. He's also good at squatting down in the soft spots in zone defense. You're really selling Moore short.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:11 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:So Moore would be just as good on another team? Say Houston or Seattle?
Moore runs routes very well, has excellent leaping ability and some of the best hands on the team. He's also good at squatting down in the soft spots in zone defense. You're really selling Moore short.
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