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re: What is the latest OT theory on why Gen Z has no work ethic?

Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11834 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:10 pm to
Grew up with iPhones and never went outside. Social media sets reality as well.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22618 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:15 pm to
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Tummy ache? Need 3 days off. Headache..same. Need 2 days off to realign and meet with my shrink. These are all real reasons I’ve been asked for time off. I could continue..


Adults shouldn’t need to tell you why they are out sick. If they have sick days they should be allowed to take them. If they don’t and/or their absenteeism is a business issue, fire them or whatever.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67218 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:26 pm to
I’ll never understand employers who offer a specific amount of pto as part of their compensation package and then constantly pressure their employees into not using it.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14835 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:31 pm to
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Adults shouldn’t need to tell you why they are out sick. If they have sick days they should be allowed to take them. If they don’t and/or their absenteeism is a business issue, fire them or whatever.


Frankly and legally they should.

I had an eye opening experience recently, where I was informed that I should be able to read into what an employee is telling me, or could be held accountable. FMLA related.

Without knowledge of said reason for absenteeism how am I supposed to not be held accountable? I’m not a mind reader.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22618 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:39 pm to
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Frankly and legally they should.


You want some young woman to tell you she needs to be out because she has uterine fibroids that need to be looked at? You gonna make a value judgement and decide what conditions can and can’t be excused?

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I had an eye opening experience recently, where I was informed that I should be able to read into what an employee is telling me, or could be held accountable. FMLA related.

FMLA generally requires paperwork, is preplanned, and involves a doctor detailing timelines etc. this is different than someone calling in sick or requesting a day off for a doctors appt.
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Without knowledge of said reason for absenteeism how am I supposed to not be held accountable? I’m not a mind reader.


You can run your business how you wish, but I’m not asking people to detail their particular illness for me. If they feel they need to be out, then follow protocol and report it to me. The details, I don’t need those, if it becomes an issue where it’s impacting work performance, we will discuss it. Jmho

Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27171 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:51 pm to
Is this for blue collar or white collar work? The blue collar Gen Zers I have hired have been awesome. Like, way better than they're predecessors. I've only hired one white collar Gen Zer, and it was a disaster. Super high maintenance.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14835 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:55 pm to
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I've only hired one white collar Gen Zer, and it was a disaster. Super high maintenance.


The Gen Z white collars will begin to Union soon enough, just wait.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97740 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:57 pm to
I always get these mixed up…..what age is z now?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14835 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:01 pm to
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get these mixed up…..what age is z now?


It doesn’t really matter.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55888 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:01 pm to
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Some of the questions these little shits ask, I would’ve never even attended to ask my parents without an arse kicking, much less my boss
sounds like you’re getting alpha’d by some 23 year olds
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7220 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:02 pm to
I don't think they're any less lazy than any other segment of the population. You have "hard chargers" and "lazy asses" no matter what the age. Of the people I've managed, and worked in teams with, I'd say, if you had to "generalize", they have a different perspective of "work / life balance", i.e. they ain't gonna kill themselves for you just because. And maybe that's a good thing. The other is they have different "time clocks" than older people do. Whereas I might be hitting the desk at 5 or 6am sometimes to get something done, they might be asleep then. And good for them that sucks getting up earlier but whatever. Conversely, they might be up working at 2am sometimes just because their "clocks" are different than mine.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14166 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:04 pm to
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The US hasn’t won a war since WW2

Gulf War 1. We left Saddam in power, but he pulled his shite out of Kuwait and left the Saudis alone.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9660 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:05 pm to
My new theory is that their whole lives are in a holding pattern waiting for the Boomers and older Gen Xs to die off and leave them something in a will.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11493 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:34 pm to
I've had the opposite experience with most of the interns. They been busting arse.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10623 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:37 pm to
I'm an early Millennial raising two late stage Gen Alphas.

They're gonna be kicking Z's butt in the workforce within their first 3-5 years out of school.

Every early millennial that has lived through several financial crisis in the most crucial time of their lives, managed to have kids later in life because of it.... Their kids will be prepared and will take all the other kids lunch money.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6549 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:37 pm to
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Gulf War 1. We left Saddam in power, but he pulled his shite out of Kuwait and left the Saudis alone.



does carpet bombing a developing nation count as winning a war?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6630 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:50 pm to
The world went to hell, soft times and all that. The fact that everyone has the ability to pull a phone out of their pocket and spout off an opinion, right or wrong hasn’t helped. The same technology that’s allowing me to post on this iPhone has made the world a better and worse place at the same time. People born in 1980 aren’t going to be anywhere near the same as people born in 2003. Times have always changed but not the way they are now.
Posted by Mr Roboto
Rural Mississippi
Member since Jan 2023
1305 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:08 pm to
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How much does it pay?

I make about 1200 a week if no days off. Tax free also ;)
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14166 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:14 pm to
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does carpet bombing a developing nation count as winning a war?



Did we lose? Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world at the time and a shitload of Soviet weaponry. How were we to know how incompetent the Iraqis were and how shitty Soviet weapons were? Thing is, we've always been good at war. We just suck at occupations.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6630 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:26 pm to
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does carpet bombing a developing nation count as winning a war?


If Saddam knew his place after the war with Iran, he would still be in power and the world would be a better place. I hate to say it but certain areas of the world need to be ruled a certain way. It might not be the best for those people, but we know what happens when a power vacuum happens.
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