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re: What is the latest OT theory on why Gen Z has no work ethic?

Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:02 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67217 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:02 am to
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make about 1200 a week if no days off. Tax free also


I never would have gone to college if I was being paid like that!
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38249 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:07 am to
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I have 60 Guatemalans making $50-$60k starting wages because they will actually work


Doing what? You’re saying you’re paying $50k and it’s something no white gen Zer wants to do?

You’re part of the problem in my eyes.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 9:08 am
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64758 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:36 am to
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Saddam Hussein called…. he’d like a word



and that word would be "conflict".
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261788 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:02 am to
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Doing what? You’re saying you’re paying $50k and it’s something no white gen Zer wants to do?



We've had over a hundred jobs open since Covid. 60k -250k (for licensed personnel)

White kids avoid these jobs like the plague. Probably has something to do with the lack of cell service in some spots and drug tests.

Young white people will be surpassed by immigrants in their lifetime. Their only saving grace is their inheritance.

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38249 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:34 am to
Doing what? I’m genuinely curious. I see people my age complaining about where all the high-paying jobs are.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67217 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:53 am to
Roger lives in Alaska. His situation is incredibly unique compared to most places in America.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38249 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:04 am to
Figures
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:09 am to
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we have trained them to be dependent but think they are independent


We've told them they are special their entire lives. But the real world doesn't appreciate nor accept their "specialness". I admit I probably fricked my kids up by giving them too much. And not giving them a proper dose of real world shite
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:12 am to
There is nothing unique about Roger living in Alaska. Here in LA, we have the busiest port system in the US with nice paying jobs all over it. Like Roger and plenty of people I talk to at various companies, most people can't pass a drug test.

If you can't give up smoking weed for a well paying job, I have no sympathy to give.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53765 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:18 am to
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Like Roger and plenty of people I talk to at various companies, most people can't pass a drug test.

I work with union construction trades and have heard this -- even in tough times, the nuke plants and refineries have a lot of work. But, guys can't pass their piss/follicle test.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:21 am to
It's true. On the water, onshore at a plant, any industrial place with heavy machinery. More than half the people that walk in the door can't piss clean.

The jobs are there. They might not be the jobs people want though
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99297 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:29 am to
I find it interesting that we have daily threads on this board about inflation, the cost of buying a starter home (if that even exists in a new build anymore), cost of buying a car, cost of groceries, etc. and then wonder why there's a whole generation that doesn't give a frick.

Maybe it's because they're reaping what previous generations have sowed and their outlook is pretty damn bleak as a result.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22589 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:29 am to
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It's true. On the water, onshore at a plant, any industrial place with heavy machinery. More than half the people that walk in the door can't piss clean. The jobs are there. They might not be the jobs people want though

Are these places at a point where they may not be able to fill the positions to adequately continue to operate?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79337 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:31 am to
I'm not convinced of it as a theory, but since I talked about it in another thread:

I think the idea that you have to succeed and excel just to sustain the type of life you had when you didn't have obligations (ie, as a youth/teen) has to play some role.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261788 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:32 am to
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Maybe it's because they're reaping what previous generations have sowed and their outlook is pretty damn bleak as a result.


They should consider this when they vote. But we both know they'll keep voting for more of the same stuff.

Posted by thecoconuttiger
Member since Mar 2024
185 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:44 am to
Well Op,

I would humbly suggest that you give them a performance expectation document and have them sign it.Then if they keep under-performing you can them.

You didn't give much info on what they were doing wrong. Are they drinking on the job and diddling the cleaning lady in the janitor's closet?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:54 am to
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Are these places at a point where they may not be able to fill the positions to adequately continue to operate?



Plenty have workers picking up extra work, which those guys love and do it. Plenty are short of work though and operations are stressed. The larger companies can kind of absorb the extra work but finding employees is a struggle still
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36734 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:14 pm to
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I find it interesting that we have daily threads on this board about inflation, the cost of buying a starter home (if that even exists in a new build anymore), cost of buying a car, cost of groceries, etc. and then wonder why there's a whole generation that doesn't give a frick.



i feel bad for kids who grow up with doomer political parents whether it Q-tard parents or Covid-tard parents

It is no way to live.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1564 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:22 pm to
Our gov promoting dependence is one. Getting them caught up being gender confused, anti-American, and making them just plain weird, etc. The 2nd is Biden’s economy. If I were 25 and had no hope bc what is happening, why would I bother? Not everyone can be in at the top of the earning careers. Middle wage earners have the right to some of the American dream. It’s what we’ve always had. It’s disappearing.
Posted by Mr Roboto
Rural Mississippi
Member since Jan 2023
1304 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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I never would have gone to college if I was being paid like that!

Which is why I dropped out in year 2. Didn’t think it was worth the time or money. All I needed for this job was common sense and a good work ethic, things many my age lack. I plan on climbing the ladder and hopefully taking over one day.
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