re: Win Friday, lose to OKC in 4-5 v Lose Friday, 14th pick.

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So now higher pick doesn’t matter because Griff has had some bad picks? If thats the case we should just do what Dell Demps does and trade every pick (which a higher pick matters in trading it too).

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You losing the argument so moving the goal posts. I did not say to trade the pick, but moving down a few spots isn’t as big a deal as you make it. Maybe Griff takes Maxey if Kira was off the board that year if we have a later pick.

And it’s not some bad picks. History has shown Griff has missed a lot more with first round picks than he’s hit so it doesn’t matter. I don’t count Zion because any monkey in a suit was taking him.

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I don't care about the rationality of getting a better pick.

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This isn’t supposed to be a particularly great draft either.

I believe it is supposed to be deep in bigs but not really ones with star potential. More like supporting cast.



If so, I don’t see a big bonus to missing the playoffs in order to move up slightly.

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You idiot

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There it is Actually came much later in the conversation than I expected. "I'm a shite fan and can't have a normal conversation so let me just call him an idiot."

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Because LONG TERM it makes no sense to be in the playoffs without Zion. Not everyone is short sighted as you.

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There are other players on the team that need playoff experience too dude. Zion isn't the only key piece for this team moving forward. In no way does getting Herb, Dyson, Trey, Jose, and hell even Hawk some experience. To think that it wouldn't help those guys is just being obtuse.

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What separates them are expectations. Pelicans fans expectations are low. The other teams fans are not. Period.

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What separates them are realities not made up expectations. Realities that a Lakers franchise is championship or bust because they are a blue blood and can bring in big name free agents just because they are LA and we haven't ever even made a finals, much less have a no title no care attitude as fans. We aren't changing the organization/aren't the difference in the Pels and Lakers. Owners, GMs, and players are the difference, but I know for damn sure I'm not going to be some miserable arse Lakers type fan that you are.

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Im not rooting against my team- why can’t you understand that?

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You want the team to lose against the Kings. That's rooting against them, it's pretty simple.

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Im saying its better long term if they don’t make the playoffs.

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Literally no way of knowing that. Especially if your sole argument is because it gets us a few spots in the draft.

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Go get excited for the first round, then we lose and you can bitch and complain that this team won’t win a title. Rinse, wash and repeat.

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I bet you can look through our post history and see that you definitely do more bitching and complaining Man this used to be a fun board but shitheads like you make it hard to even post anymore.

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Or he drafts the next Trey Murphy and Herb Jones. You pass it off like it's zero chance we draft someone that can be a rotation player.

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Yiu making my argument for me. He picked Trey after moving down from a higher pick and Herb was a 2nd rounder….

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There it is Actually came much later in the conversation than I expected. "I'm a shite fan and can't have a normal conversation so let me just call him an idiot."

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No your the shite fan who goes off on long tangent arguments and throws emojis in there to emphasize nonsensical points- yes that constitutes an idiot. Sorry if that hurt your feelings. Feel free to say it back to me if it makes you feel better.

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In no way does getting Herb, Dyson, Trey, Jose, and hell even Hawk some experience. To think that it wouldn't help those guys is just being obtuse.

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They’re not superstars. Heck they’re not even stars. You don’t go into the postseason hoping to get these guys great experience especially when the experience they need is playing around and with the one guy that wont be there (Zion). Sure it may benefit them some but again in the long run it’ll do nothing. They’re either productive role players or not- with or without playoff experience. Its much different with superstars- their growth during this time can help you determine whether you can actually win a title. Again the other guys are JUST role guys.

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What separates them are realities not made up expectations. Realities that a Lakers franchise is championship or bust because they are a blue blood and can bring in big name free agents just because they are LA and we haven't ever even made a finals, much less have a no title no care attitude as fans. We aren't changing the organization/aren't the difference in the Pels and Lakers. Owners, GMs, and players are the difference, but I know for damn sure I'm not going to be some miserable arse Lakers type fan that you are.

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Lol you do realize what you just stated is your expectation of the pelicans. You kind of proved my point, your expectations of this organization are low- deem it a reality but its actually an expectation. (This is where I sometimes I say idiot but your alpha brain gets offended by that so ill stop)

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You want the team to lose against the Kings. That's rooting against them, it's pretty simple.

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Its simple for a simple minded person like you. I want them to lose to be better in the future- a fact you conveniently ignore or you just have hard time with reading comprehension.

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Literally no way of knowing that. Especially if your sole argument is because it gets us a few spots in the draft.

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Of course not just like you have no idea whether playoff experience will help the so called role guys on the team. It may do absolutely nothing for them especially when they’re not playing with the guy you’re building around.

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I bet you can look through our post history and see that you definitely do more bitching and complaining Man this used to be a fun board but shitheads like you make it hard to even post anymore.

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Lol another tangent argument instead of addressing what I said. Never said you specifically bitch and complain a lot nor did I say I dont. Its a sports message board if you dont like my posts stop replying or reading easy enough to do shithead. No one is going to miss your posts. No one gives a shite.

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Also, depending on BI and CJ, Nance, and Jonas’s performances, it could provide some additional clarity for what to do this offseason.

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Do you really need more clarity than what we’ve already seen?

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Trading BI is still unlikely to me bc griff is not going to “win”. He’s going to be offered a lesser player or players and I don’t think he’ll part with BI for that .

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Unless BI wants out because hes not the star and is tired of Willie. I cant see Griff firing Willie, so he may not have a choice.

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Not caring about a 7 position pick differential doesn't mean I don't care about the draft. Go back to your other whack arguments please.

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Is this another official one day of replying to my posts before saying Im done replying for like the fourth time? I really am crack to you aren’t I?

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Is this what you like to revert to when I prove that you like to make up arguments in your head?

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Lol you’re hilarious. Is this what you revert to when you get called out for not doing what you said you’re gonna do?? I guess you just make up declarations in your head but never follow through. I could put this in CAPS LOCK if its easier for you to read SONS.