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re: Boomers and end of life care

Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:05 pm to
I came on a bit hard. Sorry about your wife's dad. But yes, I would be okay if it was three months. Obviously there is a lot of variables I don't know about your situation. He could be abusive, an a-hole, etc. I don't know their relationship. But my wife, she would go.
Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:06 pm to
I have a friend who has four siblings. Dad is at home with severe dementia and other issues — home health, the spouse and a sitter do day duty and all five kids rotate nights. Even the older grandkids help who can.

THAT is reasonable in my opinion.

Every situation is different and all involved need to figure out what they can/can’t do and what resources are available.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

have a friend who has four siblings. Dad is at home with severe dementia and other issues — home health, the spouse and a sitter do day duty and all five kids rotate nights. Even the older grandkids help who can. THAT is reasonable in my opinion.


I agree with this entirely
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:09 pm to
I’m at a point in my life where I could go and do what is needed — youngest of ours is 20 and I’m about to be unemployed so thanks covid.

But 15 years ago I couldn’t have just left my family. I love 90 minutes away — 3 kids and a husband with a crazy schedule. What would I have done?

Hopefully found a reasonable solution with my parents/siblings and pitched in as much as I could.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:10 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:13 pm to
My wife was the main caregiver for her mom for over a year and it sucked the joy out of her. She still isn’t the same person.

Now it’s happening with her dad and 24/7 care is too much without some help.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8361 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:18 pm to
It is a bad situation when parents get to a point they need 24/7 care. I am in the situation now. Nursing homes start at around $72k a year; full time live in nursing is more than that. If you are the single breadwinner for a household it is not reasonable or possible to just quit your job to become a nurse. If you don’t make $150,000 a year you can’t afford full time nursing care when parents have budgeted and saved zero for end of life. For those that are only children it is even more difficult. It is much easier to get on a message board and tell others what they should do than it is to actually do it.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
3014 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:20 pm to
I kept my kid alive for decades, and paid for all his shite and education to make sure he was set up for life. the least he could do is wipe my arse and take care of me before I die. Seems fairs no?
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:22 pm to
Boomers grew up where women stayed home and did all the domestic duties.

That simply doesn't exist anymore.

So, in his mind, this isn't a big ask.

But in reality, hes asking for your family to be severely crippled on multiple fronts.

YOUR family comes first and his inability to compromise and/or plan accordingly is HIS problem.



Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:22 pm to
Slingin Pickle, how did you handle your parents end of life? Did they require years of full time care? Did you provide it?
Posted by tigahfromtheham
On your left
Member since Jun 2005
5801 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:22 pm to
Different circumstance for me but some perspective. Took long term disability to care for my lady when she was diagnosed last year, ended up being 5 months. Circumstances were different because of COVID but having one person do all the care made a big difference. I knew exactly what needed to be done at all times and could delegate the care to others as needed to still keep up with four kids. I can understand why he would want his kids to be that for him, it’s a scary thing approaching death slowly and painfully. Additionally it may be a pride thing and not wanting others to see him as he worsens. It’s time they won’t regret having spent afterwards I can promise that. If it wasn’t my person and covid wasn’t going full throttle what I did could’ve been shared by a team of four or five to rotate evenings with the help of hospice and friends/neighbors during the day.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:24 pm to
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My grandparents (greatest generation) invested, saved, and budgeted for end of life care. My parents and in-laws (boomers) are investing, saving, and budgeting for end of life care. My wife and I (millennials) are investing, saving, and budgeting. Not yet explicitly for end of life care but just for life in general.


The thing is he has the money. It’s not a cost issue. He said that his plan was to hire people to take care of him.

That’s out the window now. His expectation is that his daughters leave their families to come and be there 24/7.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:24 pm to
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Time to die gramps


Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
3014 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:25 pm to
Well my dad is 80 and yes I’ll do whatever it takes for him being he made sure my life is what it is now. Anyone who wouldn’t is a selfish piece of shite.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:25 pm to
Then he may need to have some in house care. For him and help to your wife. Hopefully this is easier on her. Prayers for her and her family.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3937 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:28 pm to

Oncology is pretty good at setting a timetable for end of life scheduling based on the cancer and patient. Have you talked to his doctors and gotten a clear picture on his prognosis? Maybe the sisters can rotate a two week on/two week off plan until he needs to be put in Hospice. There's middle ground in there somewhere.

Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
3014 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:29 pm to
Her prayers have already been answered. Taking care of our parents is part of the deal you heartless frick.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11535 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:35 pm to
Time for him to move in with one of the kids, at least that is how my family has done it since I can remember. We had our great grandmother live with us and my grandparents moved in with an Aunt. It was something living with a great grandmother who had dementia when you are in grade school.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8361 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:36 pm to
That is good of you Slingin Pickle. I hope you never are put in a position where you have to be a full time care giver. It is a hard and emotional job. It is tougher yet when you are asked to be a full time caregiver for a parent, but also have to be a full time breadwinner for your family. I wish you luck if you are ever in that situation.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14263 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:46 pm to
He refuses to move in with us even though we could do it because he would never be a burden or live in our house. He’s decided he is going to stay at home, but somebody needs to be there all the time.

Also, this is the same guy that sent his mom to an assisted living facility near his sisters back int he day “because it was their turn “ to take care of mom.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14263 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:47 pm to
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Her prayers have already been answered. Taking care of our parents is part of the deal you heartless frick.


You have no idea the amount of time my wife spent with her mother and her father during both of their declines. But this is the message board so I have to assume you’re just a mouth breathing dickhead and not worthy of intelligent conversation.
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