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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:07 am to ell_13
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And still not based on confirmed cases. It’s accuracy is assumed to be pretty good because of how much data we have. But it’s still an estimate. That’s not debatable.
It's accurate. That's all that matters.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:11 am to Antonio Moss
Currently or from when this started? You can’t claim that testing was terrible to start and still isn’t good enough and then claim that we are testing And HAVE tested 50% of the 18-49 age group since January. That’s not logical at all.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:12 am to Antonio Moss
And I’m not disputing that number. I’m saying it’s not equatable to the covid number which is based on confirmed cases alone
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:14 am to Bow dude72
I guess now I’ve heard from someone on the internet that knows someone who knows someone who got the virus.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:15 am to Antonio Moss
What is the actual confirmed case death rate of the flu?
No estimates, just actual numbers.
No estimates, just actual numbers.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:17 am to ell_13
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Currently or from when this started? You can’t claim that testing was terrible to start and still isn’t good enough and then claim that we are testing And HAVE tested 50% of the 18-49 age group since January. That’s not logical at all.
I'm using the studies done in Taiwan (which is what our government is using) and the smaller one from the Italian town that tested 100% of its population.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:18 am to lsupride87
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What is the actual confirmed case death rate of the flu?
No estimates, just actual numbers.
Not sure. I would imagine that it's probably somewhere in the .04% range for that age group.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:21 am to lsupride87
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So for you to know 6 people is extremely on the statistical anomaly side of things
It really boils down to semantics. Someone will claim they "know" someone with the virus using 3rd degree of separation. They have never met the person and most likely don't even know their name but you can be damn sure they are going in the count when they post on facebook.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:22 am to Antonio Moss
quote:This one? : LINK
the smaller one from the Italian town that tested 100% of its population.
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We made an interesting finding: at the time the first symptomatic case was diagnosed, a significant proportion of the population, about 3%, had already been infected – yet most of them were completely asymptomatic.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:23 am to skullhawk
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t really boils down to semantics. Someone will claim they "know" someone with the virus using 3rd degree of separation. They have never met the person and most likely don't even know their name but you can be damn sure they are going in the count when they post on facebook.
I personally know six people confirmed.
I know two others via degrees.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
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In this thread alone we have a guy who knows a perfectly healthy sub 30 year old who almost died
I work on an ambulance
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:30 am to windshieldman
quote:Not being mean, all you would really know is he isn’t fat
I work on an ambulance
Unless he decided to give you his entire past medical history on the ride
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
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Let’s pretend what you said is true(it’s not
The only problem with your statement is what I said is absolutely 100% true.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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Unless he decided to give you his entire past medical history on the ride
Yea part of what we do is take their entire medical hx on the ride
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:31 am to windshieldman
So you and the gentleman discussed past illnesses, you folllwed up on his case after you dropped him off to see his potential underlying conditions etc?
Serious question
Serious question
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:31 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Yes
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:32 am to lsupride87
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So you and the gentleman discussed past illnesses, you folllwed up on his case after you dropped him off to see his potential underlying conditions etc?
Absolutely, and I have with several others
ETA: His girlfriend actually called the fire station and talked to me after he got out
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:33 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
And this:
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Nonetheless, asymptomatic or quasi-symptomatic subjects represent a good 70% of all virus-infected people and, still worse, an unknown, yet impossible to ignore portion of them can transmit the virus to others. Full testing would give us a clearer picture of how many people actually have the virus, and how many pass it on.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:37 am to Prominentwon
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Who gives a frick how old they were or if they “had any underlying conditions.”
They’re dead from complications from coronavirus. Probably wouldn’t be dead if this virus wasn’t a reality.
Ok, I'm just curious. This type of data does matter to me as I continue to change my life to protect myself and my loved ones. I'm not trying to downplay it with that "underlying conditions" trope.
I don't think knowing the age of the victims is garbage at all. I think it is more useful than the health conditions aspect because that is less quantifiable and fuzzier.
I asked because my interpretation from the OP is that he wasn't that old. And it does add an even sadder context to the story.
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