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re: Brother-in-law has a friend that passed away from Corona

Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:38 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:38 am to
frick it

I work for the hospital system with the largest amount of covid patients. I crunch data for my livelihood. We haven’t had a single critical perfectly healthy patient under 50. Much less under 30

It’s going to be hard for me to beleive all these ancedotal personal “perfectly young and healthy” stories until at least one shows up in our data.

ETA: this is not me saying the virus should not be respected. It should. I can also tell you the volume of critical patients with covid is real
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:39 am to
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It really boils down to semantics. Someone will claim they "know" someone with the virus using 3rd degree of separation. They have never met the person and most likely don't even know their name but you can be damn sure they are going in the count when they post on facebook.

Do you people really not personally know 1000+ people? I invited 400 to my wedding. Several hundred more I went to grade school, high school, and college with that I know their first and last names. Several hundred more people from my hometown I have known over the years. A couple hundred people I know through work and doing business with them.

These aren’t the cart boys at Winn Dixie. It’s not that hard to know a few thousand people..

ETA: I know one person with the virus. She lives in NOLA.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:43 am to
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I work for the hospital system with the largest amount of covid patients. I crunch data for my livelihood. We haven’t had a single critical perfectly healthy patient under 50. Much less under 30

It’s going to be hard for me to beleive all these ancedotal personal “perfectly young and healthy” stories until at least one shows up in our data.


I’m not concerned all that much if you believe me. I also mentioned about an “older” unhealthy guy who smokes and he got over it just fine. When we transport a possible covid, we get alerted by it once the test come back. Some I may not hear any info on as far as how bad they got, some I do. I imagine most are released later that day. You working at a hospital that has many of them is completely irrelevant to what I do and have been alerted to, not only by his gf calling to thank us, also by a nurse friend, and our ems coordinator about that young man. It’s possible he had a condition he didn’t know about, I don’t know. It’s cool if you do not believe me, doesn’t change anything
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:43 am to
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It’s going to be hard for me to beleive all these ancedotal personal “perfectly young and healthy” stories until at least one shows up in our data.


I’m with you. I screen every “rule out covid patient” on the census at our hospital since our department is slow and we want to ensure we’re not needlessly exposing ourselves for inappropriate orders. The only young (40s) death we’ve had was one who was an uncontrolled diabetic. We’ve have however have quite a few VERY elderly patients (85+) be discharged home with good recovery.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20572 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:54 am to
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The truth is: downplaying the severity of the virus is causing people (old, young, healthy, unhealthy) to go out about their normal day which is putting them AND others at risk. Someone doesn't deserve to die from this shite virus b/c they are fat or old. It's a tired fricking argument on this board.


You can call us sociopaths but its facts. People die from being fat and unhealthy every day due to things like a heart attack, blood pressure, etc. We aren't fat shaming, we are pointing out that years and years of non stop eating and no exercise is one of the top causes of death in this country.

How long has the government been working on getting people to eat better, lose weight, and exercise? A long freaking time. This is why, right here. Because being unhealthy means you are more at risk to die younger then someone otherwise healthier.

You can be an idealist and look the other way and beat around the bush all you want, but that is life. Healthy organism live and unhealthy die.

ETA: No one is saying unhealthy people deserve to die, we are saying its their own poor decisions for years and years generally that are causing them to be high risk.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:56 am
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6581 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:34 am to
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We made an interesting finding: at the time the first symptomatic case was diagnosed, a significant proportion of the population, about 3%, had already been infected – yet most of them were completely asymptomatic.
This lines up with what the Seattle doctors said about the virus circulating for 6 weeks before they found the first case in Washington. I think we are a lot closer to herd immunity than we realize.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20572 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:39 am to
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This lines up with what the Seattle doctors said about the virus circulating for 6 weeks before they found the first case in Washington. I think we are a lot closer to herd immunity than we realize.


I hope so. That's what we need.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:56 am to
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This lines up with what the Seattle doctors said about the virus circulating for 6 weeks before they found the first case in Washington. I think we are a lot closer to herd immunity than we realize


Hopefully.

A 40-60% asymptomatic rate sucks for trying to control transmission but it will make the rise, peak, and fall come quicker.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11841 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:12 am to
There is no immunity. It is a new virus
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
3389 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:21 am to
I know the stats on flu deaths but in 60 years I've never personally known someone who died of the flu. I can think of one or two relatives of friends who died from the flu. Now I know two who have died this week and several friends have had relatives or friends who died from covid-19 and this is just within a couple of weeks.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:24 am to
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I know the stats on flu deaths but in 60 years I've never personally known someone who died of the flu. I can think of one or two relatives of friends who died from the flu. Now I know two who have died this week and several friends have had relatives or friends who died from covid-19 and this is just within a couple of weeks.



I posted a link a few weeks ago about an EMT friend of mine that worked for a different ambulance service who died a few years ago from the flu in her 40s. She had no known health problems. My daughter, same year, had a girl from her school die from the flu.

News website

ETA: Not from daughter's school, they just knew each other.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 11:43 am
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