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re: Kari lake underperforming trump by 11 points in new Arizona poll just out

Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5064 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:51 pm to
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Lake is not MAGA


MAGA is nothing more than the "Trump Loyalty Club". Lake definitely is MAGA. She is 100% loyal to Trump.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101733 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:52 pm to
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We've had 3 major election cycles (2018, 2020, 2022) as well as off-year election cycles (2021 in particular) since Trump won in 2016.


I understand. How many "MAGA candidates" did that involve? You counting every GOP loss and that's it?
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12990 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Lake is not MAGA.


Lake is on the Mt Rushmore of MAGA
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19485 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Ah another Kari Lake thread. Just what this board needed.

Do we need 100 other threads a day? No, but we have them. Should a bad candidate not be called out? Kari Lake is a grifter who supported Hillary in 2016 and will never win an elected race in Arizona. There has to be a better MAGA candidate in Arizona than her.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74558 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:54 pm to
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Any other gop nominee would flip the seat against gallego. Any other


Who specifically?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424516 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Do you think the reason is that deep down people believe that Trump is kidding a bit and being playful but others in the MAGA realm are dead serious?

I would not be shocked to learn this applies to a great number of people.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19485 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Why won't someone else run?

Because she knows her bread is buttered by her, now, full throat support of Trump and the die hard MAGA contingent now determines who is nominated in a GOP primary.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9784 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:57 pm to
Who did Ron endorse for president?
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11829 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:59 pm to
Usually the down ballot GOP candidate outperforms Trump. This is how you know Lake is historically bad.

Trump should pick her for veep.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119146 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:01 pm to
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It's a referendum on MAGA.


How does this reconcile Trump winning and Kari not?

Maybe it's Kari and not MAGA?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19485 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:01 pm to
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People do not like non-Trump MAGA candidates at anywhere near the same rate they like/tolerate Trump

This is an interesting take and I'm not sure I agree. Trump can get away with a lot, which I don't mind, but I think the issue is more that most "MAGA" candidates are strictly pro-Trump and not America First. To me MAGA should be America First and there are a lot of them out there.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1498 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:02 pm to
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2018, 2020, 2022


Yes, this winning streak will go on forever /s. As much as I can tell this country is split about 50/50 as it has been for most of its existence.

Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5117 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:05 pm to
Trump can sure pick ‘em
He’ll blow it also so there’s that
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4813 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:08 pm to
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Trump will win ARZ. Lake will not.
I keep seeing this, but what laws have changed in Arizona to deal with all their previous problems? Maricopa can run these elections however they want.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424516 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:08 pm to
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but I think the issue is more that most "MAGA" candidates are strictly pro-Trump and not America First.


Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11643 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:09 pm to
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Usually the down ballot GOP candidate outperforms Trump. This is how you know Lake is historically bad.


Not in the polls i've seen this year and not just AZ. Trump is winning in NV, but the GOP senate candidate is trailing. Same for Montana, MI and OH too. Makes no sense to me if these people hate Biden and what he has done to this country and prefer Trump to fix the mess, yet they will saddle him with a DEM senate who has voted for every Biden policy. It's nuts.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12990 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:09 pm to
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Maybe it's Kari and not MAGA?



Lake is still relevant because of MAGA

Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1498 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:10 pm to
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I keep seeing this, but what laws have changed in Arizona to deal with all their previous problems? Maricopa can run these elections however they want.


HA..yeah right, the former corrupt SOS is the governor, who is stupid as bricks. If anything it will be worse.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424516 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:11 pm to
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How does this reconcile Trump winning and Kari not?

People tolerate/support Trump more than non-Trump MAGA candidates.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19485 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:12 pm to
Fair response and MAGA, as a term, is pro-Trump first. I just don't equate being American first with MAGA exclusively I guess.
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