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re: Ancient civilizations. Y or N?

Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:29 pm to
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Gobeki Tepe
Is the most famous of many sites that make up the Tas Tepeler culture or whatever you want to call it. The science indicates that people from Siberia migrated to Turkey 25k years ago and mixed with the Anatolians. About 10k years later, after 1000 years of circular enclosures like Kortik Tepe, we see the first megalithic structure, as in Boncuklu Tarla.

It all developed very slowly over time, and there's no indication that anything like it existed at that time anywhere in the world. Honestly, I think they eventually left those places and crowded into the emerging cities, like Jericho and Uruk. I think that fertile region is still the birthplace of civilization. It just goes back farther than we previously knew.
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Even the great pyramids in Egypt, as we're told are the burial chambers for the Kings, had no inscriptions of hieroglyphics inside.
Yes it does. Khufu's name appears several times on the inner stones of the Great Pyramid, the ones that were still labeled from the quarry.. After getting all sides of the story, I firmly believe the Great Pyramid was made during the time of Khufu.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68475 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:44 pm to
It’s partly due to the Annunaki
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11466 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:11 pm to
The history that has been lost, dwarfs what we know.

If we had a great setback today, all the things you know would be reduced to dust in a relatively short amount of time. Stone is the only thing that would remain.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
886 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:36 pm to
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The history that has been lost, dwarfs what we know.


Definitely, look at the Black Plague and how it setback development and advancement.

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The Black Death was a bubonic plague pandemic occurring in Europe from 1346 to 1353. One of the most fatal pandemics in human history, as many as 50 million people[2] perished, perhaps 50% of Europe's 14th century population


The Spanish flu killed up to 100 million, although the population had grown significantly by then. Plagues, comet/asteroid impacts, the Earth's magnetic field reversing, Mass Coronal ejection events, there are many ways that a civilization could have been wiped out or moved back to start. Also, many early civilizations were established along coastlines in areas that are now underwater.
Posted by Dirt Booger
Comanche County
Member since Apr 2023
247 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:54 pm to
There is no stronger environmental eraser than water. As stated before, the flood and ice age wiped it out.

Check out Graham Hancock. He and another guy who I can’t think of (and who may already have been mentioned) have studied this extensively
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27467 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:55 pm to
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Con-artists like Graham Hancock have made a nice little cottage industry of pointing to new discoveries by archaeologists, and then pointing the finger and acting like they're hiding their own discoveries or something.


You picked a con artist who has spent the last 25 years being proven more right than wrong.

The guy's a loon. But... Much like ol' "turn the feiggin frogs gay" he now has a few too many accurate things to dismiss him as easily as you did.
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
9365 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 9:08 pm to
I've been down this rabbit hole on YouTube. Apparently, there is a lot of competition between archeologists for the big "finds" and theories. Interesting stuff for sure but there's plenty more to learn. It's amazing how old these ancestors of modern man are.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7265 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 9:10 pm to
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The guy's a loon. But... Much like ol' "turn the feiggin frogs gay" he now has a few too many accurate things to dismiss him as easily as you did.


He has no evidence of anything. Go listen to latest appearance on Rogan. He gets destroyed by an archaeologist than presents countless amounts of evidence of hunter/gatherer civilization, and all Hancock can rebut with is “But what about the areas you haven’t searched yet”
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11466 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:05 pm to
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Definitely, look at the Black Plague and how it setback development and advancement.

Zombie/Apocalypse shows are all the rage now. If we had a true global meltdown, the knowledge to rebuild what we have would be easily lost. Think about it. If you were transported back in time, say 200 years ago, what TECHNICAL knowledge do you posses that would be massive change to humans?

The point is, every modern thing we take for granted, depends on a multitude of specialized people to make it happen. In the end, break that chain and everything we know will dissolve over time.
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5399 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:32 pm to
They sure know how to keep traditions going long and strong.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2232 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:37 pm to
Jericho is 9,000 BC
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56343 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:48 pm to
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There are no hieroglyphs inside the Great Pyramid.
There is one “hieroglyph” in the Kings Chamber of the Great Pyramid but it is subtle and unusual.

It is a right triangle, the meaning of which is “love” and ”steadfastness”, “strength”. It is visible in light from an angle. I’ve seen it.
This post was edited on 5/4/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25226 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 11:39 pm to
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I firmly believe the Great Pyramid was made during the time of Khufu.


Of this I’m skeptical.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21195 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 12:51 am to
I try to look at the positive. The loons get us to look at things we might not have thought about otherwise. So that's a net positive, as long as we go deeper and don't take the loons or con-artists at face value.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21195 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 12:53 am to
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It all developed very slowly over time


This is the key point. Nothing was built overnight.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19345 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:06 am to
Humans have even quite smart for a long time. It would be strange to me that we only developed complicated civilizations in recent history. What Hancock has said about the flood and rising sea levels is worth considering as well, 80% of humans live close to the ocean. If something existed, it would be ocean floor now.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8033 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:15 am to
At the emergency room and phone dying but what is also fascinating is there’s parts like the Amazon that are being discovered. Love listening to the dudes on Joe Rogan talk about how deep in the Amazon they go, the people, animals…. Then the ocean floor, finally space? So much to wrap the brain around.
Posted by 87PurpleandGold
Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
502 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 3:38 am to
The monoliths in Peru pretty much solidified it with me. The huge rocks weighing thousands of tons seamlessly fit together are an engineering wonder. It's called "cyclopian architecture". The antedeluvian ancient world is a rabbit hole you can disappear down. All cultures have oral traditions of a great flood and giants. The island of Sardinia off the coast of Italy has thousands of burial mounds where giants were buried. I believe the giants were offspring of the Watchers written in about in Enoch 1. Enoch 1 expounds on Genesis 6:4. The Watchers brought advanced technology with them and taught man "forbidden" knowledge. There are several researchers who know a lot about the subject. One is Timothy Alberino amd another is LA Marzuli.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 3:40 am
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Member since Jul 2021
1839 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:24 am to
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Herodotus visited the pyramids in the 5th Century B.C. and wrote that he was taught by local priests and scholars who showed him inscriptions about the building of the pyramids as tombs to the great pharaohs.


You do realize Herodotus is regarded as a better storyteller than a historian, right? Understanding this, inscriptions aren't necessarily hieroglyphs in the sense of a traditional form of writing. And local priests & scholars aren't going to tell a foreign traveler "yep, all the gold and treasure you can imagine is over there in that valley" where the great pharaohs were actually buried.

Just playing devil's advocate..
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7888 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:27 am to
Let's take the cities in Louisiana for example.

After 200 years, there will be very little evidence any of these cities existed if they were outright abandoned overnight, save for the larger and/or most robust concrete structures.

Now imagine 10,000 years. We'll be lucky if Baw is still worshipped as a mythical god. The slate will be wiped clean.

That's what happened to your ancients. The Earth itself erased them.
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